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tractor Tetraglot Senior Member Norway Joined 5452 days ago 1349 posts - 2292 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, English, Spanish, Catalan Studies: French, German, Latin
| Message 9 of 13 18 December 2010 at 7:10pm | IP Logged |
What I meant when I said "retroflex r", was of course not really a retroflex r, but all the other retroflex sounds
mentioned above.
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Maybe that many dialects with retroflex sounds lack the "thick l".
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| davidwelsh Heptaglot Senior Member Norway Joined 5528 days ago 141 posts - 307 votes Speaks: Lowland Scots, English*, Norwegian, Esperanto, Swedish, Danish, French Studies: Polish, Sanskrit, Tibetan, Pali, Mandarin
| Message 10 of 13 19 December 2010 at 9:43am | IP Logged |
Victor Berrjod wrote:
As for [æ], it does, as pointed out above, exist in English. I've never heard it in <far> or <bard> |
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I guess you've never been to Scotland then;)
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| Victor Berrjod Diglot Groupie Norway no.vvb.no/ Joined 5108 days ago 62 posts - 110 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, English Studies: Japanese, Korean, Ancient Greek, Biblical Hebrew, Mandarin, Cantonese
| Message 11 of 13 20 December 2010 at 9:30pm | IP Logged |
Actually, I've never been to an English-speaking country at all, except for a change of flights in London once. I need to do something about that. ;)
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| Arekkusu Hexaglot Senior Member Canada bit.ly/qc_10_lec Joined 5380 days ago 3971 posts - 7747 votes Speaks: English, French*, GermanC1, Spanish, Japanese, Esperanto Studies: Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Estonian
| Message 12 of 13 20 December 2010 at 9:42pm | IP Logged |
My Norwegian friend from Bergen most definitely uses a uvular R in words like Bergen.
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| Aquila123 Tetraglot Senior Member Norway mydeltapi.com Joined 5305 days ago 201 posts - 262 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, English, Italian, Spanish Studies: Finnish, Russian
| Message 13 of 13 30 December 2010 at 7:23am | IP Logged |
Speaking Norwegian with uvular R is fully acceptable. A native speaker of French has very little to learn if he chooses to speak Norwegian with uvular R, except the palatal spirant "kj", the vowel "y" and the tunes of cource.
The "y" is simply a rounded i-sound.
The norwegian "u" is usually the same sound as the "u" in the French words "lui" "puis", not the sound as in the word "sur".
Norwegian grammars often give an exaggerated emphasis on the aspirated pronuonciation of p,t,k, which I think is nonsense. Unaspirated pronuonciation is fully valid so you can use your French version of these sounds too. Many Norwegians nearly never aspirate the stops
Edited by Aquila123 on 30 December 2010 at 7:24am
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