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Bolkonsky
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 Message 1 of 8
17 January 2011 at 7:07pm | IP Logged 
Hello everyone,

First I hope it is the good place to post this message.

So, I have learnt Swedish for 10 months now (irregularly for 8 months and in a most intensive way lately) using FSI and Assimil "Le Suédois sans Peine". I have completed the 12th first FSI lessons and I have just reached the 13th of Assimil. Besides I use Anki everyday and have also the possibility to correspond with a Swedish friend. My level is obviously still bad but I'm highly motivated.

To improve I have decided to buy a dictionary Français/Svenska Svenska/Français but it seems to not exist in a French edition. Do I need to buy an Swedish one? Do you have any recommendation ? (I would like one with the different ending of verbs (ex:att hälsa, hälsar, hälsade, hälsat) and nouns (ex: en slol, stolen, stolar). Now I use "The People's dictionary" on-line but I would prefer a French one that I can bring along.

Here is my second question. We have at school a Finnish assistant who speaks Swedish (she is here to speak English with us). She already now that I learn Swedish on my own and I'm sure she would be glad to give me some help. But how can I take advantage of her and have effective learning without bothering her too munch ?

All suggestions are welcomed.
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jeff_lindqvist
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 Message 2 of 8
23 January 2011 at 12:57pm | IP Logged 
Hello, sorry for not having seen this post before.

I don't know any Français-Suédois dictionaries - maybe because Swedish isn't that big a language in France. However, there are Swedish dictionaries, and Norstedts is one of the major publishers. I know that they come in "Engelska/Svenska", "Svenska/Engelska" and "Engelska/Svenska - Svenska/Engelska", and I think it's safe to assume that all these combinationes are available for French as well.

Eng/Sv doesn't mentions genders, but Sv/Eng does, and as you probably want to be able to look up words you don't know yet - you're better off with a dictionary in both "directions".

Example (just from memory):
Eng/Sv
table - bord

Sv/Eng
bord(et) - table (as you can see "bordET" indicates that it's neuter, (ett bord, bordet, detta bord, det där bordet et.c.)

So, assuming that "Norstedts stora franska ordbok : fransk-svensk, svensk-fransk" (ISBN: 9789172276031) works the same way, you'll have to look up the word twice, first from French, then from Swedish.

I can have a look at the French one at work when I get there (Tuesday) for details about the verb entries.

Either this, or you have to find a dictionary aimed at people with Swedish as a second language (which I don't know about). After all, most Fr/Sv dictionaries are aimed for Swedes (who already know the genders).

Now, to your second question. She's your English teacher but also knows Swedish (maybe it's even her native language). If I were you, I'd have small talk conversations now and then (probably more welcoming than if you'd ask her to correct something you've written - but if you have specific questions about grammar etc. she might be willing to help anyway).

Good luck!
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Bolkonsky
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 Message 3 of 8
23 January 2011 at 2:34pm | IP Logged 
Tack för ditt svar Jeff !

I have already seen the "fransk/svensk -svensk/fransk" dictionary on Bokus.com and it seems to suits me. Do you know if Bokus can deliver their books in France ? Is it more expensive if I pay directly from France with my bank card ?

Concerning the second question, she is actually not my teacher but just an assistant which means she deals with a lot of different class helping teachers. I have the opportunity to have a short conversation with her. She has learned Swedish at school as well as a major part of Finnish student but told me she was totally fluent. The first step is to work out a deal to speak with her one or two hour per week.
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jeff_lindqvist
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 Message 4 of 8
23 January 2011 at 3:10pm | IP Logged 
"We deliver to the following countries:

Australia * Austria * Belgium * Canada * Cyprus * Czech Republic * Denmark * Estonia * Faroe Islands * Finland (inc. Åland) * France * Germany * Greece * Hungary * Iceland * Ireland * Italy * Japan * Latvia * Lithuania * Luxembourg * Malta * Monaco * Netherlands * New Zealand * Norway * Poland * Portugal * Slovakia * Slovenia * South Korea * Spain (inc. Canary Islands) * Sweden * Switzerland * United Kingdom"

They provide free shipping in Sweden, so you have to check with them what the postage to France might be - kundservice@bokus.com .

http://www.bokus.com/cgi-bin/P_campaign_show.cgi?location=he lp_in-english
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Bolkonsky
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 Message 5 of 8
23 January 2011 at 9:48pm | IP Logged 
Thanks Jeff, it turns out to be very expensive 36O crowns for the book and almost the same for the postage. So I have chosen to buy a slimmer one on a French website with just 28000 words. It will be enough for a while, I will buy a thicker one when I will go in Sweden and when my level will be munch better.
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skyr
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 Message 6 of 8
17 February 2011 at 12:31pm | IP Logged 
Hej!

Until a few months ago I'd have suggested the online Lexin dictionary, but now that's not available online, I'd recommend the book format to you -

Lexins svensk-franskt or svensk-engelskt ordbok.

I got mine from a university bookshop in England, but I know they can be brought at French and German university bookshops too, maybe even online.

The Lexin dictionary is for people studying Swedish as a Second Language and shows nouns along with their plural, gender and relevant articles, adjectival endings, verb endings in present and past. I still use it to check endings 8 years on!

I hope this is useful!

Sarah
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Lisa Sc.
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05 May 2011 at 10:30am | IP Logged 
Hi!
I´m Lisa and I´d like to ask any native speaker about Free Ads websites in Sweeden. Can you give me any????
Thanks!
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WentworthsGal
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 Message 8 of 8
09 July 2011 at 12:09am | IP Logged 
Lisa Sc. wrote:
Hi!
I´m Lisa and I´d like to ask any native speaker about Free Ads websites in Sweeden. Can you give me any????
Thanks!


Hi, I'm not from Sweden and I don't know about any free ads sites; but their equivalent to ebay is Tradera.se if that helps at all...

Hugs x


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