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montmorency Diglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4818 days ago 2371 posts - 3676 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Danish, Welsh
| Message 9 of 11 27 October 2012 at 9:27pm | IP Logged |
rolf wrote:
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...although quite popular in the Netherlands and parts of Belgium I believe. :-)
No, I like to hear of people learning Dutch. It was the first language I tried to teach myself, with dismal results it has to be said, although I can still remember bits and pieces, and with the help of subsequently learned German, I can read a lot of the written language.
Rolf,
I had a quick look at your blog. Regarding books, I know how slow and painful progress can be. Have you considered audiobooks at all?
I don't necessarily mean doing what we might call the "classic L-R method", but just as an aid to reading.
I find listening to the L2 and reading the L2 at the same time is very helpful.
With German where I am fairly advanced, it doesn't matter if I don't have a translation, but if I have a translation, then I'll read that first (maybe chapter by chapter, maybe the whole book first).
However, with Danish, I'm still pretty much a beginner, so what I've been lucky enough to do is find an audiobook and an e-book of a Danish book I want to read that I also have in English and have read, and also have in German.
I've read the whole book in English a while back, but what I'm doing now is reading a chapter in German to refresh my memory of the story, then I listen to the same chapter in Danish and read it Danish at the same time.
In my case it's mainly to tie in the written and spoken language together, since the written language is not a good guide to the spoken one, at least for English speakers. But I do pick up some meanings from context, and I think that will increase quite a lot as I get used to the spoken-vs-written language.
In your case, you could read a chapter of the English book, then listen to it, and read it in Dutch.
(The main problem is finding audiobooks which are not shortened versions. Unfortunately, it's not always crystal clear in the audiobook description, although you can get some idea from the size of the audio files. For Danish, the audiobook is often not much more expensive than the e-book, at least so far in my experience.).
From what I remember, Dutch has some of the same problems as Danish for the English speaker, i.e. the spoken language appears not to correspond to the written language at first, although I don't think it's as bad as Danish.
Stefany: Sorry to hog your intro thread, and welcome to the forum!
Edited by montmorency on 27 October 2012 at 9:28pm
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| rolf Senior Member United Kingdom improvingmydutch.blo Joined 5997 days ago 107 posts - 134 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Dutch
| Message 10 of 11 27 October 2012 at 11:27pm | IP Logged |
Hey montmorency,
It's funny you should say that because I've started doing it that way i.e. reading a
chapter in English, then reading it in Dutch. And I do have a few audiobooks too which
I might try listening to before reading in Dutch.
Just to stay OT, Stefany if you're looking for audio books they are known as
"luisterboeken" or "audioboeken". I have also found a lot of Dutch books
(nederlandstaligeboken) simply by Googling!
I think it's best not to talk anymore about my blog in this thread but feel free to
leave a comment on my blog if you want to!
Stefany, you didn't mention how you are learning or planning to learn Dutch. I would
recommend Michel Thomas strongly. It gave me great, natural basic abilities and many
Dutch people I spoke to when I lived there were surprised by my ability. Much better
than most English people living there.
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| Stefany93 Newbie dyulgerova.infoRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4404 days ago 11 posts - 11 votes Studies: Dutch
| Message 11 of 11 28 October 2012 at 4:11pm | IP Logged |
@rolf, thank you for the advice and resources. I do plan on studying Dutch by learning
the grammar from the two Dutch textbooks I have and writing the exercises.
Just the way I learned English. I will also try the audio books, thank you.
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