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TAC 2015 - Rare Languages Team Thread | ||
Tags: Telugu | Hawaiian | Albanian | Team Thread | Malay | Sanskrit | Georgian | Tagalog | Indonesian | Thai | Rare Languages | Farsi/Persian | Hindi | Hebrew | Dutch | Arabic | Total Annihilation Challenge (TAC) | ||
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| Zireael Triglot Senior Member Poland Joined 4644 days ago 518 posts - 636 votes  Speaks: Polish*, EnglishB2, Spanish Studies: German, Sign Language, Tok Pisin, Arabic (Yemeni), Old English | Message 97 of 113 12 April 2015 at 5:28pm | IP Logged | ||
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Still there, and just posted an update. Luso, might want to cheer me up in Arabic, I've been pretty worried those few weeks over my Yemeni friends - and today has been a shock.
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| Magdalene Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5029 days ago 119 posts - 220 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Mandarin, German, Modern Hebrew, French | Message 98 of 113 12 April 2015 at 7:51pm | IP Logged | ||
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Also still here! I'm still working on getting a regular study schedule together, so my
progress has been sporadic at best and there hasn't been much to report. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Anya Pentaglot Senior Member France Joined 5786 days ago 636 posts - 708 votes Speaks: Russian*, FrenchC1, English, Italian, Spanish Studies: German, Japanese, Hungarian, Sanskrit, Portuguese, Turkish, Mandarin Studies: Ancient Greek, Hindi | Message 99 of 113 13 April 2015 at 1:07pm | IP Logged | ||
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Also still here! Working on vocabulary using Anki.
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| Sprachprofi Nonaglot Senior Member Germany learnlangs.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6463 days ago 2608 posts - 4866 votes Speaks: German*, English, French, Esperanto, Greek, Mandarin, Latin, Dutch, Italian Studies: Spanish, Arabic (Written), Swahili, Indonesian, Japanese, Modern Hebrew, Portuguese | Message 100 of 113 15 April 2015 at 10:16pm | IP Logged | ||
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I just completed the Hebrew Add1Challenge. Not done with the language, but I made a
lot of progress. You can watch all my Hebrew videos and see me progress at http://learnlangs.com/90_days_Hebrew . Some insights I thought I'd share: Routine beats all My biggest problem is my lack of a language-learning routine. This was one of the reasons I signed up for the Add1Challenge in the first place, to have social pressure help me form a language learning routine. I'm not 100% there yet, but I've been learning Hebrew much more regularly than I otherwise would. Learning vocabulary that sounds different Another problem that I encountered: learning vocabulary that sounds different than any other word I know. One of the advantages of being a polyglot is that you can draw on so many different languages for mnemonics. I did take advantage of that, but due to the different phonology and the root consonant system, there were still Hebrew words for which I couldn't find a good mnemonic. My solution, which I implemented quite late: rather than cramming too many strange new words, also look at word families within the target language and learn those. For example: 'inyan (interest), la'inyan (to the point), yesh li inyan be... (I am interested in...), me'anyen (interesting), me'unyan (interested). Unfortunately I haven't yet found a root-based dictionary of Hebrew, that would have been really helpful. If you know one, please let me know! Chunking At the beginning of the challenge, I focused a lot on Anki, simply learning lots of words and also quite a bit of grammar. Later, I found that all these words weren't really doing much for me, because I had trouble recognizing words in regular-speed speech and I needed too much time to come up with words myself when building phrases. I then remembered Anthony Lauder's excellent talk from the Polyglot Conference in Budapest, where he told us that the human brain actually cannot process language at the speed as it is used, if it were to rely on a vocabulary list. The only way we can speak as fast as we do is because our brain chunks phrases. To say "I'm hungry, let's go have falafel", your brain does not look for the words for "I", "am", "hungry" and the like, it probably has a stored memory of "I'm hungry", and also "let's go", and then maybe looks up "have" and "falafel". So it only does 4 dictionary look-ups rather than 8. And language learners do 8 look-ups for this kind of phrase, that's why they can't speak or understand faster. There is no way around it, you have to allow your brain the time to see & store chunks. You can speed up the process though. Here are some ways:
Hope you find this useful! Edited by Sprachprofi on 15 April 2015 at 11:36pm 3 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6590 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 101 of 113 15 April 2015 at 11:00pm | IP Logged | ||
In my experience, songs are very useful for the unusual vocabulary. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Expugnator Hexaglot Senior Member Brazil Joined 5159 days ago 3335 posts - 4349 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, Norwegian, French, English, Italian, Papiamento Studies: Mandarin, Georgian, Russian | Message 102 of 113 15 April 2015 at 11:21pm | IP Logged | ||
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I'm back! Second day of regular studies since March 27th. Georgian isn't exactly my main field of progress now, but I'm seeing progress with reviewing a newspaper reader I went through two years ago, that is, longer sentences start to make a little more sense.
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| Zireael Triglot Senior Member Poland Joined 4644 days ago 518 posts - 636 votes Speaks: Polish*, EnglishB2, Spanish Studies: German, Sign Language, Tok Pisin, Arabic (Yemeni), Old English | Message 103 of 113 11 June 2015 at 1:37pm | IP Logged | ||
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Done with my MA (printed, bound & submitted for review - defense on the 23rd), so more time for posting in my log.
I hope the forum doesn't disappear 3 days hence :) 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Expugnator Hexaglot Senior Member Brazil Joined 5159 days ago 3335 posts - 4349 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, Norwegian, French, English, Italian, Papiamento Studies: Mandarin, Georgian, Russian | Message 104 of 113 11 June 2015 at 10:05pm | IP Logged | ||
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Congratulations! Now for some fun with Arabic!
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