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Al-Irelandi
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United Kingdom
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 Message 17 of 18
19 May 2012 at 3:29pm | IP Logged 
Some general points.

Firstly, Noam Chomsky - multilingual or not- revolutionised linguistics. The field,
prior to his works in the late 1950s and 1960s, was largely descriptive. Chomsky
argued for generative linguistics which paved the way for a dismissal of behaviourism
and the structural linguistics in the area of child L1 learning. His competence and
proficiency in multiple languages, or the lack of, hardly undermines his breakthrough
that children have an underlying rule based system that governs their language use and
is capable of generating an infinite number of utterances on a number of finite rules.
This notion is in contrast to earlier behaviourist models that simplified language
acquisition (child or adult, L1 or L2) as occurring by way of learners merely repeating
that which they heard around them, with no account to explain the processes involved.

Secondly, linguistics is a large field, and in some sub-fields having a proficiency in
specific languages is of great importance whereas in others it may not necessarily be
the case.

Thirdly, structural linguistics was limited in its application on second language
acquisition and learning. Many of the predictions the behaviourist-influenced
structuralist linguist Lado (1957) made in 'Contrastive Analysis' about the types of
language features that should be able easily transfer to another language sharing them
were shown to be unfounded. This was made evident in the kinds of 'errors' that
learners made when acquiring a given L2, regardless of their L1s features being shared
by the L2 or not. Such learners tended to make similar errors and go through a similar
developmental process, as in the case of the order of certain morphemes being acquired
in the process of acquiring English, undetermined by their L1.


In all, some of the comments that are made about Chomsky and linguistics are
unfounded. Without
following his work on the subject -which spans back to the late 1950s- and having an
overview of linguistics, much what is going to be said about the two will be mere
speculation. At least one should bring some quote of what he has said and let us
analyse them as opposed to misconstruing what he did or didn't say. In fact, Chomsky
has had relatively little to say about L2 acquisition or even L1 acquisition. His main
concern is how language is represented in the mind, as opposed to the processes that
the learner goes through in building up such a representation.


Edited by Al-Irelandi on 19 May 2012 at 3:34pm

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Gorgoll2
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Brazil
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 Message 18 of 18
19 May 2012 at 10:06pm | IP Logged 
On Everett, I think Portuguese is sine qua non: Many indigenous tribes speak only
Portuguese here. And even among the brazilian elites, English is not very known - I wouldn
´t advise a non-Portuguese speaking to live here.
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