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Hampie
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 Message 9 of 13
17 September 2011 at 4:43pm | IP Logged 
Doitsujin wrote:
dglass48 wrote:
But how would his work strike the average literate adult reading him for the
first time?
Thoms Mann is famous for his carefully crafted and often very long sentences. (IIRC, one of the
sentences in his book "Joseph and his brothers" consists of more than 300 words.)
If it makes you feel any better, many of his books aren't exactly easy reading for native speakers either.

COuld you perhaps post that sentence here, just to.. show? I’m very curious :P.
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 Message 10 of 13
17 September 2011 at 5:11pm | IP Logged 
comparing Fontane and Mann from the point of view of a native speaker:

I think Fontane is more difficult in terms of vocab, because he uses more old-fashioned expressions and constructions. For me, Mann's writing style is very clear and easy to understand. On the other hand Mann is tending to rampant descriptions of every single detail that comes across, while Fontane is concentrating on the story itself. Also, Fontane is regarded as being very talented in writing dialogues, they are very lively and close to reality (at least how we imagine reality ~100 years ago).

Anyway, I like both very much, but Mann definitely requires mire patience...
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 Message 11 of 13
17 September 2011 at 7:47pm | IP Logged 
    since posting my original query last January, practice has improved my overall reading ability and I no longer am finding Mann's writing to be so difficult. He does use an extensive vocabulary, so until one's overall vocabulary knowledge has reached a certain point, he, as well as other authors, will seem difficult, not due to grammatical constructions, but by the careful variety of words employed.
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 Message 12 of 13
18 September 2011 at 12:22am | IP Logged 
Emiliana wrote:
comparing Fontane and Mann from the point of view of a native speaker:

I think Fontane is more difficult in terms of vocab, because he uses more old-fashioned expressions and constructions. For me, Mann's writing style is very clear and easy to understand. On the other hand Mann is tending to rampant descriptions of every single detail that comes across, while Fontane is concentrating on the story itself. Also, Fontane is regarded as being very talented in writing dialogues, they are very lively and close to reality (at least how we imagine reality ~100 years ago).

Anyway, I like both very much, but Mann definitely requires mire patience...


Thanks Emiliana. Yes, Fontane does put in a lot of dialogue, doesn't he? It's almost "Filmic" in quality. I used to think he was rather conservative and conformist, but I have come to realise that (at least for a Prussian :-) ) he was relatively progressive and clear-sighted, and his emphasis on women's themes was, I suppose, ahead of its time. And I have been pleasantly surprised by the little nuggets of humour in the books.

As for Mann, for someone wanting to start reading him, could you suggest a good book to begin with?
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 Message 13 of 13
18 September 2011 at 1:32pm | IP Logged 
montmorency wrote:
As for Mann, for someone wanting to start reading him, could you suggest a good book to begin with?


I begun my voyage through the realm of Thomas Mann's works with "Der Tod in Venedig". It's a short and concise story and not as challenging as the "Buddenbrooks" or "Der Zauberberg". For anyone interested in music and German history, I can also recommend "Doktor Faustus" although the language might be more challenging here. Nevertheless Thomas Mann is a great author (my personal favourite) and every single of his works is worth reading, challenging though it may be.


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