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| Tyrion101 Senior Member United States Joined 3902 days ago 153 posts - 174 votes  Speaks: French | Message 1 of 19 31 December 2014 at 8:28pm | IP Logged | ||
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I have considered flash cards, but honestly don't know where to start as in making them, I'm good with certain words the first time I see them, because they either look interesting, or sound like something in English I can associate it with, also when I make a mistake with guessing what the words is, and find out it is something different, I always seem to remember that word from then on. If I use flash cards, how would I set them up for languages? Especially verbs that have many conjugations, would I do a flashcard for each type of verb, such as oir verbs, ire verbs, etc (French.) Does anyone else have something that would work better?
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| Speakeasy Senior Member Canada Joined 4041 days ago 507 posts - 1098 votes Studies: German | Message 2 of 19 31 December 2014 at 8:52pm | IP Logged | ||
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Perhaps the following explanation of Spaced Repetition will be of some help. Edited by Speakeasy on 31 December 2014 at 8:59pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| rdearman Senior Member United Kingdom rdearman.orgRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5225 days ago 881 posts - 1812 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Italian, French, Mandarin | Message 3 of 19 31 December 2014 at 10:45pm | IP Logged | ||
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Looking into Anki a computerised spaced repetition system.
Really it depends on what you want to do with the cards. You can do films in ANKI, or visual stuff. Sounds like you just want to learn verb conjugations. I found I could use ANKI with close deletion cards for this purpose. Basically this is a flashcard (on the computer) with the verb and all it's conjugations, with one conjugation obscured, for example the past-historic, for you to recall. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| IarllTroseddwr Newbie United States Joined 3648 days ago 23 posts - 28 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish | Message 4 of 19 31 December 2014 at 11:06pm | IP Logged | ||
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I would highly suggest taking a look at Master of Memory. There is a podcast where the host takes listeners questions about specific items they need help memorizing and he has created a Spanish course that is based on Mnemonic techniques. I have really been enjoying the podcast since the beginning and have been watching the Spanish part develop. It looks very promising. Maybe you can use similar ideas with your French.
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| James29 Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5364 days ago 1265 posts - 2113 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: French | Message 5 of 19 01 January 2015 at 1:43am | IP Logged | ||
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That Master of Memory Spanish course has a headline advertisement saying "Become Bilingual By April 1" and it does not say anything about the "program" but asks for a lot of personal data to be entered. It looks like an April fools joke to me :)
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| IarllTroseddwr Newbie United States Joined 3648 days ago 23 posts - 28 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish | Message 6 of 19 01 January 2015 at 2:34am | IP Logged | ||
Wow, sorry. I haven't been to that page for a while, since I'm a bit beyond the course he offers. That is an intimidating bit of advertisement. If you scroll down, there's a free option where you don't have to give any info. Here's the link if you're interested: Spanish Course. If not, no worries. I asked a few questions on the podcast a while back and even won one of his contests, so I know he's legit. Never really got too big into the Mnemonic scene, but I can see how it could help in some circumstances. I downloaded his Spanish podcasts and they're not bad, if a bit silly sometimes. I wish I would've had something similar when I was beginning Spanish. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
 Iversen Super Polyglot Moderator Denmark berejst.dk Joined 6692 days ago 9078 posts - 16473 votes Speaks: Danish*, French, English, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Swedish, Esperanto, Romanian, Catalan Studies: Afrikaans, Greek, Norwegian, Russian, Serbian, Icelandic, Latin, Irish, Lowland Scots, Indonesian, Polish, Croatian Personal Language Map | Message 7 of 19 01 January 2015 at 9:23am | IP Logged | ||
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And if you don't like having random questions poked at you by a machine, then you could also try doing some wordlists. They may appear intimidating at a first glance, but once you get into the routine you may find that they are quite efficient.
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| shk00design Triglot Senior Member Canada Joined 4433 days ago 747 posts - 1123 votes Speaks: Cantonese*, English, Mandarin Studies: French | Message 8 of 19 01 January 2015 at 10:41am | IP Logged | ||
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Space repetition is a good way. When learning languages, having a lot of exposure means a lot. I prefer to rework
my schedule so that every day I would listen to certain # hours of Chinese radio, watch Chinese TV and read the newspaper. You come across the same words or phrases in a newspaper many times and you'd naturally remember them. If you are just using Flash cards or any kind of learning material, I still find there is too much information you are forcing into your head. When you read a newspaper and come across an article of interest, you'd absorb the material naturally without doing rogue memorization. To be more practical, everyday we come across objects in our daily routine. For instance, we drive to a supermarket. Suppose we are learning French, we would run into all sorts of objects and try to think about the word in that language. We open the door to get into a car we'd say "ouvre la porte". And then you turn the key to start the engine you'd say "tourne la clef". By the time you get to the supermarket you'd say "J'arrive au supermarché". When you are having dinner, try to name food items on the dinner plate. A while ago I was watching a video by Tim Doner the polyglot on learning languages by trying to name objects you come across. Going by Flash cards & phrase books can be a bit boring at times. If you push yourself harder to think about what you'd say in real life situations, you tend to learn faster without effort. I play music with a band and play a lot of pieces from memory. You listen to a tune many times from recordings and it stays in your head. The other thing to help you remember when playing music is muscle memory. Whether you play violin, cello, piano, you'd repeat a passage many times and train your fingers to repeat specific finger patterns. Repetition is a good way of learning but you have to find things that interest you so remembering them becomes more natural. You wouldn't want to learn a language by reading a dictionary from A-Z but more like Tim Doner who make the effort to name objects you come across every day like you pick up a pen you'd say "c'est un stylo" in French and eventually the word stylo for pen stays in your head. Edited by shk00design on 02 January 2015 at 5:05pm 2 persons have voted this message useful |
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