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| eyðimörk Triglot Senior Member France goo.gl/aT4FY7 Joined 4088 days ago 490 posts - 1158 votes  Speaks: Swedish*, English, French Studies: Breton, Italian | Message 57 of 68 16 January 2015 at 9:57am | IP Logged | |||||||||||||||||||||||
Not a single science fiction novel, or not a single good one? I can't really speak for the latter, but... Jan Guillou, perhaps best known for his excellent dark semi-autobiographical novel, Ondskan, his macho spy novels, and most recently his crusader novels, actually wrote a young adult sci-fi novel. I remember quite liking it as a child. It wasn't hard sci-fi, though. It's more space opera, but, not. For the curious, it's called Gudarnas berg. George Johansson is another Swedish young adult sci-fi writer, but one I never read myself. By the time I started being interested in sci-fi, I was already reading in English. I only read Guillou because my teacher didn't want to let me do all of my year's reading for Swedish class in English. Edited by eyðimörk on 16 January 2015 at 9:58am 4 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Ari Heptaglot Senior Member Norway Joined 6571 days ago 2314 posts - 5695 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English, French, Spanish, Portuguese, Mandarin, Cantonese Studies: Czech, Latin, German | Message 58 of 68 16 January 2015 at 12:03pm | IP Logged | |||||||||||||||||||||||
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There are a few Swedish science fiction novels, but not many. Kallocain by Karin Boye is probably the most famous, having been translated to lots of languages. There's the TV series Äkta människor, and as for movies: Terror in the Midnight Sun.
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| daristani Senior Member United States Joined 7133 days ago 752 posts - 1661 votes Studies: Uzbek | Message 59 of 68 16 January 2015 at 7:07pm | IP Logged | |||||||||||||||||||||||
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The full version of the movie cited by Ari above seems to be available on YouTube cited under the (alternative?) name of "Space Invasion of Lapland":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxDdtq2fImw Edited by daristani on 16 January 2015 at 8:14pm 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Cavesa Triglot Senior Member Czech Republic Joined 4998 days ago 3277 posts - 6779 votes Speaks: Czech*, FrenchC2, EnglishC1 Studies: Spanish, German, Italian | Message 60 of 68 17 January 2015 at 6:29pm | IP Logged | |||||||||||||||||||||||
To the first issue: Well, I should have made myself clearer. I don't know Stormberg so I cannot judge on that. But for the sake of the pissing contest: German media should be, following your logic, ten times better than Czech media, in this exemple the tv series. Yet, everywhere I ask, I hear only that the Germans watch just the dubbed american tvseries as their own are of sh.t quality and all those I have seen support this point of view. On the other hand, there are good quality Czech series that the czechs really watch and that aren't dumb (I suppose we aren't comparing soap operas and such things). Yes, in absolute numbers, those are nowhere near French or Spanish, which I have more experience with than German, but most Czechs can remember something good from their country, not only dubbed american things. So how comes the Germans usually don't? From what it appears to me, the German and the Czech television industry are at approximately the same level. They produce a few good quality shows, than some dust and than they both dubb a lot. That may not prove Czech tvs being better but it does prove that the German tv is not any better, which is a shame for those serving a ten times bigger population, isn't it? So yes, perhaps this nations tv industry isn't as "good" as Germany's (and when I never said it was when it came to movies, just tv shows as the German ones are just well known to be bad) but considering amount of good quality production per million speakers, it is very likely the same or better. There are no numbers on the tv shows that I could find but when it comes to books, the Czech book market is one of the largest per capita and with lots of native authors. As you were as well asking about Swedish sci-fi, you would be totally satisfied by Czech authors. Čapek is one of those creating the beginnings of the genre and today's authors, such as Žamboch, Kulhánek, Kaderková, Kotleta and others are no shame to the genre, some are even being translated to other languages. And sorry, your original thought on the matter of the czechs just having "translated HP and dubbed american movies", that was so american and offensive. By applying a stereotype "small and less known country=no culture of its own", you are supporting the stereotype "american=totally ignorant of anything not served to him on a silver platter". Totally unnecessary. Edited by Cavesa on 17 January 2015 at 6:33pm 5 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
| lichtrausch Triglot Senior Member United States Joined 5949 days ago 525 posts - 1072 votes Speaks: English*, German, Japanese Studies: Korean, Mandarin | Message 61 of 68 18 January 2015 at 4:35am | IP Logged | |||||||||||||||||||||||
I have never said that there is some kind of law that says population corresponds exactly with the quantity of quality media. That is clearly not the case. I'm just suggesting that population is one essential variable in the equation.
If you remember my first post in this thread, I complained about the low quality of German media myself.
It would seem that you are backing farther and farther away from your original position.
That's a non sequitur par excellence. The Czech TV industry could, per capita, be excellent, but still fall well short of Germany's in total number of quality series, because of the huge population difference.
From what I've read, it does indeed seem that Czech punches above its weight in SF.
Oh, come off of it. If you go back and read what I wrote, you will see that I said I expected I would find some, but not much, quality media in Czech. Moreover, I also said that my specific tastes are also to blame. I never doubted for a second that Czech has some quality culture. It's just a question of quantity. So save your "ignorant American" stereotyping for another time. 4 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Juаn Senior Member Colombia Joined 5334 days ago 727 posts - 1830 votes Speaks: Spanish* | Message 62 of 68 18 January 2015 at 8:27pm | IP Logged | |||||||||||||||||||||||
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I have little knowledge or interest in science fiction or television, but like I said earlier, Polish, Czech, Hungarian, Finnish, Serbocroatian or Romanian boast a very rich literary culture. Anyone interested in literature would find these very rewarding investments. In fact, there are more specific authors I personally regard as major writers in these tongues than in Swedish, Dutch, Danish or Portuguese. In terms of culture, numbers of speakers or income levels are not very good guidance. Tiny Norway has produced a disproportionate amount of great novelists and composers for example, more than the gigantic U.S., including Knut Hamsun, along with Dostoyevsky perhaps the most important novelist of modernity. And Hebrew, without many more speakers throughout history, has been one of the most influential languages of mankind.
Anyone interested in Czech literature can visit Portál české literatury for an overview. Cavesa, you have it much better than you think. Just be thankful you weren't born in Santombia, the socialist kleptocracy of the 21st century. 4 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Darklight1216 Diglot Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5089 days ago 411 posts - 639 votes Speaks: English*, French Studies: German | Message 63 of 68 23 January 2015 at 12:03am | IP Logged | |||||||||||||||||||||||
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So did you decide on a language?
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| stout Senior Member Ireland Joined 5360 days ago 108 posts - 140 votes Speaks: English* Studies: French | Message 64 of 68 26 January 2015 at 10:03pm | IP Logged | |||||||||||||||||||||||
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Learning one foreign language is enough for me thank you.French will be the first and
only foreign language that I will learn. I have no interest at all in learning another foreign language. However for anyone who is learning their next foreign language.I wish them the best of luck in their studies. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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