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| tristano Tetraglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 4036 days ago 905 posts - 1262 votes  Speaks: Italian*, Spanish, French, English Studies: Dutch | Message 17 of 32 28 January 2015 at 2:30pm | IP Logged | |||||
Hi @Cavesa, unfortunately I don't know if I can learn a language as difficult as Italian. I would prefer something easier ;) Edited by tristano on 28 January 2015 at 2:31pm 5 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| daegga Tetraglot Senior Member Austria lang-8.com/553301 Joined 4510 days ago 1076 posts - 1792 votes Speaks: German*, EnglishC2, Swedish, Norwegian Studies: Danish, French, Finnish, Icelandic | Message 18 of 32 28 January 2015 at 4:19pm | IP Logged | |||||
I miss a "signature" on this forum. I often feel the need to put in a disclaimer like "All my posts are highly biased and build almost exclusively on personal anecdotal evidence. Don't take them too seriously." But then, this should go without saying. But some replies make me wonder if it really does... 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| tastyonions Triglot Senior Member United States goo.gl/UIdChYRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4654 days ago 1044 posts - 1823 votes Speaks: English*, French, Spanish Studies: Italian | Message 19 of 32 28 January 2015 at 4:21pm | IP Logged | |||||
No, go for it, trust me, I can help you out! Maybe you can give me some tips to improve my English, too. Edited by tastyonions on 28 January 2015 at 4:22pm 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| tristano Tetraglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 4036 days ago 905 posts - 1262 votes Speaks: Italian*, Spanish, French, English Studies: Dutch | Message 20 of 32 28 January 2015 at 5:24pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Of course I was joking @Cavesa :) Please take my comment as playful. @daegga, I think that @Serpent's comment didn't want in any way to be offensive. I read it as "since you're native German speaker and you speak Swedish, you're most likely to find Danish pronunciation easier than someone without a background in Germanic languages" or a very weak background as in my case. @kanewai, I think that in your list Indonesian is the only very convenient choice. With Turkish (by the way, I saw many of the crappy Turkish movies like "Turkish Rambo" and "Turkish Star Wars" just to laugh with some friend) I fear that not having ever studied an agglutinative language it would be a tough experience. The others in your list are, indeed, a fat chance :) Apart of Latin, but they don't produce many movies in Latin nowadays :( @Cavesa, the slavic are also good candidates due to my interest in that family. What about Czech? Are there movies, podcasts, radio, literature and good stuff? About Hebrew I fear that it is at least as hard as Arabic :( 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| albysky Triglot Senior Member Italy lang-8.com/1108796Registered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4377 days ago 287 posts - 393 votes Speaks: Italian*, English, German | Message 21 of 32 28 January 2015 at 5:52pm | IP Logged | |||||
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This is probably not the answer you expected , but If I were you ,living in the netherlands , I would focus
intesively on Dutch , lots of input , novels plus audiobooks , radio etc as well as interaction with people since you live there . I would keep on that till you reach a good C level in comprehension regardless of how well or bad you speak it , speaking will come with time and practise. By doing so you 'll have a solid basis to build upon if you decide then to learn German and /or a scandinavian language . Meanwhile I would keep up both French and Spanish . Try to be consistent with Dutch up untill that point and I am sure it will pay off if you decide to take up other languages later on ,no matter which . Edited by albysky on 28 January 2015 at 5:58pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| tristano Tetraglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 4036 days ago 905 posts - 1262 votes Speaks: Italian*, Spanish, French, English Studies: Dutch | Message 22 of 32 28 January 2015 at 6:27pm | IP Logged | |||||
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@albysky, since when I'm studying Dutch I started to study all the languages that are not
Dutch while going slowly with Dutch. I have little resiliance with this language. I really want to learn it but I have really little will to study it. Sometimes I manage to be constant for three months but then I need to pass to something else. I will learn it, slowly but I will learn it. 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6586 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 23 of 32 28 January 2015 at 8:43pm | IP Logged | |||||
Well but a great thing about HTLAL is exactly that, recognizing the limits of your experience and forecasting how it can be different for someone else. I *did* have some background in Germanic languages and I found listening to Danish extremely hard until I got some experience with Swedisn and Norwegian. It was like this (sorry if my comparison offends anyone). Even most Scandinavians can't understand Danish as well as Swedish/Norwegian respectively, and while many would likely agree that it's easier to understand than to pronounce, I've never heard such comments from someone who didn't already speak a Scandinavian language. I love Danish, and it will be really cool if tristano chooses it, but it won't be easy. Heck, I spoke it in a past life, and it's still not easy :D As for doing your first agglutinative language, I think there's no reason to be concerned. They're very logical. If you want to study "difficult" languages like Russian, Persian or Mandarin, you need to learn to wrap your mind around a very different way of thinking. (Hm, Turkish used to be written with the Arabic alphabet and has lots of loan words from it, and I suppose from Persian too. Sounds like a fun choice for you? :) But just like the Scandinavian trio, I think it will keep you busy enough all year. Which has the benefit of not having to choose again later in the year) Edited by Serpent on 28 January 2015 at 8:51pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| tristano Tetraglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 4036 days ago 905 posts - 1262 votes Speaks: Italian*, Spanish, French, English Studies: Dutch | Message 24 of 32 28 January 2015 at 10:13pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Yes Turkish really sounds like a fun choice :)
So let's analyze - Scandinavian trio: well, learn it as a trio is very convenient . Issue with this choice: I have to start today. And I have to be quite constant because it means that I'm doing three language instead of one :P Good stuff is that I will improve my understanding of one language by studying one of the other two as well. - Turkish: intense! but very nice - Polish / Croatian / Serbian / Czech: also intense! but good due to my interest in Slavic languages, plus head start for Russian. - Greek: fascinating under many levels. On the minus point it is less convenient than the scandinavian trio, less charming than Turkish and less Slavic of the Slavic ones :) - Indonesian: like Greek but easier :) Any new proposals? :) 1 person has voted this message useful |
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