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| luke Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 7194 days ago 3133 posts - 4351 votes  Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Esperanto, French | Message 9 of 11 18 February 2015 at 7:17pm | IP Logged | |||||||||||||||||
I told you when I hear FSI I salivate like one of Pavlov's dogs. All kidding aside, I totally get the resistance to carrying on with FSI drills. I hit the same wall that Mr. D. has brought up at the same point (unit 8). I'm glad I persevered for at least up to this point. I'm again thinking of dialing back FSI drilling to something like 20 minutes in the car, rather than an hour sometimes. It can suck the fun out of a drive when you can't respond to a drill that you think you should based on how many times you've already done it. I've been inspired by Cavesa and others, like Mr. Wilken, for whom the more pleasant input inspired method has given great results. I do have some errands to run, so, just this one more time, I'm going to do FSI again, even though I already did it for 20 minutes earlier this morning. I think I am anyways. Let's see how my concentration is when I hop in the car. P.S. I fought my way through the rest of the hard core FSI tape 9.4 during that little errand. Must come up with better FSI approach (penultimate gasp). Edited by luke on 18 February 2015 at 7:56pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||||||||||||||
| DaraghM Diglot Senior Member Ireland Joined 6140 days ago 1947 posts - 2923 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: French, Russian, Hungarian | Message 10 of 11 19 February 2015 at 9:53am | IP Logged | |||||||||||||||||
Thanks for the great advice.
This is a great tip. It’s actually how I found out why spoken fluency wasn’t sufficient. I’m using “Les 500 Exercices de Grammaire ” for B1 and B2 do this oral practice.
I’d estimate about 6,000 pages and around 400 hours of audio.
I’d say yes to a modern novel, but I’d struggle with some historic novels. I’ve found the gaps in my vocabulary are equivalent to the threshold vocabulary I have in my native language. E.g. haulyard, backstay
This is a great resource, and I completed about the first third last year. It’s the best of the series. I’ve worked my way through the previous three levels during my 1,000 hours challenge. I ended up dropping it as I felt I’d spent forever with the series. I think I’ll return to it and also continue with the “Les 500 Exercices” books as well.
As you also mention, my other language commitments are restricting my time. It’s tempting to pull back on some languages such as Bulgarian and Polish. I didn’t plan on studying them this year, removing them from my studies list. but they drew me back in. Yes, I’m an addict. The last six months has also seen a big improvement in my Russian. I can’t abandon it having finally make some headway. I think my plan will be to increase my reading, but also do the FSI drills. The handy thing about the FSI is I can use them as audio only, as I already know the grammar and vocabulary. I’ve also got the new French in Action course Part 1. It has a ton of audio as well with a lot of audio exercises. I stopped FIA at Unit 14 as I misplaced the MP3 disk, but I just found it again last night. Hmm. Is my question now FIA vs. FSI ? 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||||||||||||||
| Cavesa Triglot Senior Member Czech Republic Joined 4998 days ago 3277 posts - 6779 votes Speaks: Czech*, FrenchC2, EnglishC1 Studies: Spanish, German, Italian | Message 11 of 11 22 February 2015 at 12:22am | IP Logged | |||||||||||||||||
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Are you sure your last question isn't going to provoke just the same answer: "Why not
both"? :-D Now seriously. I think the FIA is unnecessary, if you are already advanced enough for real native input. But it can't hurt obviously. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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