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| MBrecht92 Triglot Newbie United States Joined 4143 days ago 12 posts - 12 votes Speaks: French, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: German | Message 9 of 14 22 February 2015 at 11:34pm | IP Logged | ||
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Thank you for your response, Lakeseayesno.
Would you mind explaining exactly what you mean by "once you mechanize the learning process"? Exactly what techniques are you referring to? 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| redflag Senior Member Australia Joined 3831 days ago 123 posts - 182 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: Danish, Indonesian, French | Message 10 of 14 22 February 2015 at 11:44pm | IP Logged | ||
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I am going to say Indonesian. It's easier than the others so you could get to a good
level more quickly and then start on one of the other languages. I'm spoiled a little bit in living in Australia so interesting materials are easier come across than the US probably (the local library for instance has a large collection of music, books and movies). Plus you basically get Bahasa Malaya for free once you have Bahasa Indonesia - two for the price of 1! 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| MBrecht92 Triglot Newbie United States Joined 4143 days ago 12 posts - 12 votes Speaks: French, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: German | Message 11 of 14 23 February 2015 at 12:12am | IP Logged | ||
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The thing is, in the US there are not that many Indonesian speakers at all, so it isn't (as far as I know) easy to find media or resources in said language. Also, my Indonesian friend has told me that her language and Malay are far more different from one another than is generally thought.
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| cathrynm Senior Member United States junglevision.co Joined 6114 days ago 910 posts - 1232 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese, Finnish | Message 12 of 14 23 February 2015 at 2:17am | IP Logged | ||
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With Japanese here in the USA most of the work goes to native speakers. Maybe if you have some other field, law, science, engineering, that might be better. A whole lot of people move to Japan to teach English, and though nobody gets rich doing this, they seem to survive okay, even with limited Japanese skills. So might be an option, if you're looking for the Asia experience but want a destination where you can drink the tap water.
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| Lakeseayesno Tetraglot Senior Member Mexico thepolyglotist.com Joined 4323 days ago 280 posts - 488 votes Speaks: English, Spanish*, Japanese, Italian Studies: Esperanto, French | Message 13 of 14 23 February 2015 at 2:33am | IP Logged | ||
This is very deeply entrenched with the way in which how *I* learn Japanese, so I apologize in advance if it doesn't sound very helpful to you. For me, "mechanizing the learning process" involves the repeated usage of a learning technique (any, really) that you have optimized for your own persona: therefore, at some point the use of that technique becomes part of your daily routine and learning requires a lot less effort. For me, optimizing the learning of kanji was a "have-problem-will-find-solution" kind of exercise. I noticed that reading contextless, isolated kanji (even with the use of SRS) was not helping me retain the meanings and stroke orders of the characters, so I started messing around with the way I learned until I found an exercise that improved my retention rate. This exercise is essentially scriptorium with a twist: 1. Write full sentences from the media material I was watching everyday (in paper) while spelling them out loud 2. Pay special attention to unknown kanji and grammar constructions, research what I don't know 3. After letting the new information sink, repeat the sentence half an hour later (without the written sentence for reference--I only check when I absolutely can't remember) 4. Try to picture the unknown kanji in my mind while speaking it out loud I found that if I'd written the kanji by hand, after 30 minutes to one hour my retention rate was absolute, and if I kept writing it often, it improved the longevity of that kanji in my head. When my written production levels improved, the "sentence copying" evolved into keeping a hand written journal, which keeps all the kanji I know fresh in my mind. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Tyrion101 Senior Member United States Joined 3902 days ago 153 posts - 174 votes Speaks: French | Message 14 of 14 24 February 2015 at 8:53pm | IP Logged | ||
I agree, go with what you like best, it won't matter that the language is insanely complex. I love Russian as well. Interest is a strong motivator. However, practicality is also pretty strong as well, if everyone around you speaks Hindi for example, and you don't, it can be a good idea just to learn enough to converse, you do not need to learn the whole language, just enough to talk to people with. As I said though, go with what you are motivated to learn. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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