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Lizzern Diglot Senior Member Norway Joined 5912 days ago 791 posts - 1053 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, English Studies: Japanese
| Message 25 of 29 12 May 2009 at 5:52pm | IP Logged |
Exactly, Taka. I've heard a lot of positive things about the community aspect of it (but have avoided the site altogether mostly, because of their main teaching methodology, which I wholeheartedly disagree with), but I wouldn't necessarily trust any native speaker to weed out mistakes. Some people consider active use of the language more important than weeding out mistakes, personally I think they should go hand in hand, and that mistakes shouldn't be swept under the rug... Not everyone is going to nitpick and not everyone should be involved in writing a language course, imho - as evidenced by the thumbs-up responses to some pretty horrible translations.
The sad truth is that a lot of non-native speakers make pretty basic mistakes in their Norwegian grammar and continue to do so, never correcting them, because they learned things 'more or less' when they started and just carried on that way cause nobody made a fuss and they didn't mind it. So if I see mistakes taught or ignored as if it was no big deal, it worries me a little :-)
I just hope the LiveMocha course never goes live in this format!
Honestly though, I don't see the point of teaching people a stilted and awkward form of any language, even as a means to an end hoping people understand the overall structure of it that way. I much prefer the Assimil method myself. If they had a community site they'd be unbeatable...
Liz
Edited by Lizzern on 12 May 2009 at 5:55pm
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| Taka Diglot Groupie China Joined 6095 days ago 47 posts - 48 votes Speaks: Mandarin*, English Studies: Swedish, Portuguese
| Message 26 of 29 26 November 2009 at 5:56am | IP Logged |
So..finally we've got the Swedish lessons on livemocha, I am happy to see them online, but unfortunately, there are not any extra exercises in which you can interact with native speakers by having the natives correcting and commenting like the other languages. I wonder if there is anyone else who are using Livemocha to learn Swedish here, what do you guys think?
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| cordelia0507 Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5841 days ago 1473 posts - 2176 votes Speaks: Swedish* Studies: German, Russian
| Message 27 of 29 30 November 2009 at 1:08am | IP Logged |
Well, I was using it before, for Russian, but I had to quit because the course was pretty useless.
It was clear that that the Russian course was really just translated from a course to teach people English or maybe French. It certainly wasn't suitable for teaching Russian - it dived straight into some very complicated grammar without explaining any of the background.
I want to go back though --- Just because of the handy function of being able to submit exercises -- just like you say.
So what, is the Swedish course online now? A complete version?
But no Swedish speakers actually use Livemocha?
Edited by cordelia0507 on 30 November 2009 at 1:09am
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jeff_lindqvist Diglot Moderator SwedenRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6912 days ago 4250 posts - 5711 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: German, Spanish, Russian, Dutch, Mandarin, Esperanto, Irish, French Personal Language Map
| Message 28 of 29 30 November 2009 at 2:20am | IP Logged |
Jag är inne då och då, mest när systemet påminner mig om att jag inte har varit inloggad på ett tag, eller någon på kompislistan har skickat ett meddelande. Annars tröttnade jag ganska snabbt på själva formatet, och för den delen kommentarerna. Det kunde bli toppbetyg för enkla övningar (av såväl kineser som andra), eller så fattade man inte vad jag menade trots att jag hade följt "mallen" till 100%. Jag är tveksam till om jag ens slutför lektion 4 eller vilken jag nu höll på med...
PS Taka, let me know if you want this in English instead.
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| Taka Diglot Groupie China Joined 6095 days ago 47 posts - 48 votes Speaks: Mandarin*, English Studies: Swedish, Portuguese
| Message 29 of 29 01 December 2009 at 2:09pm | IP Logged |
jeff_lindqvist wrote:
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Jag också!
Cordelia, nu finns det extraövningar med svenska också. Jag har precis skickat en talande övning. Jag ska se hur det går. Jag är glad nu, eftersom jag vill ha mitt uttal rättat och förbättras.
Jeff, I think I can almost understand what you said, thanks.
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