miKonnen Bilingual Diglot Groupie Canada mikonnen.blogsp Joined 6859 days ago 54 posts - 57 votes Speaks: English*, Cantonese* Studies: French, Mandarin
| Message 9 of 28 26 April 2006 at 10:05am | IP Logged |
Thanks so much! Finally, I've got a Korean radio with a transcript!
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Malcolm Triglot Retired Moderator Senior Member Korea, South Joined 7323 days ago 500 posts - 515 votes 5 sounds Speaks: English*, Spanish, Korean Studies: Mandarin, Japanese, Latin
| Message 10 of 28 26 April 2006 at 6:10pm | IP Logged |
I used to use this website to practise listening to Mandarin and Portuguese, but I eventually stopped for the following two reasons:
1.) The content simply doesn't interest me. It is supposed to be international news, but the focus is still very much on Japan. Very few of their news items interest me.
2.) The order of the transcripts doesn't always match the order of the news items in the broadcast, and sometime they broadcast something that doesn't have a transcript or they have a transcript for something that isn't included in the broadcast. This can be a little confusing. It also seems to depend on the time of day.
Despite this, I think it's a high quality resource for those who have the patience or interest to listen to that kind of content.
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geranio99 Heptaglot Newbie Spain Joined 7032 days ago 26 posts - 32 votes Speaks: Catalan*, Spanish, FrenchC1, EnglishC2, GermanC2, Italian, Romanian Studies: Russian
| Message 11 of 28 27 April 2006 at 10:06am | IP Logged |
First of all, thanks for this useful resource. I am particulary interested in the Russian broadcast. I usually rip the streamed broadcast, convert it to mp3 and listen to it through my mp3 player. Besides, my mp3 player can even show text files, even in Unicode, so I can even read the transcripts on the move.
I know two more resources of this kind, one for Russian and for Finnish.
For Russian (http://www.gwu.edu/~slavic/webcast/: these webcasts are posted to the web bi-weekly in simplified standard Russian. The news itself is taken from a number of Russian sites, including Lenta.Ru, Vesti.Ru, Ytro.ru and other authentic sites. Apart from the transcripts, you can also find exercises for pre-listening, vocabulary and post-listening support.
For Finnish (http://www.yle.fi/radiopeili/sivu.php?uname=selkouutiset#sp ecialfinnish): five minute broadcasts which cover items of current interest, in Special Finnish, easy language and slower delivery.
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maxb Diglot Senior Member Sweden Joined 7191 days ago 536 posts - 589 votes 7 sounds Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: Mandarin
| Message 12 of 28 27 April 2006 at 3:22pm | IP Logged |
I'm a bit surprised that there is so much interest in studying news in language learning. I have thought about using news for my study of Mandarin, but I have come to the conclusion that I'm not interested. I have started to realize that I don't care if I understand news or not in the future because I won't be watching them anyway. I understand CNN perfectly well, but I didn't learn to do that by watching alot of CNN. I learned the required vocabulary from other sources that intersted me.
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patuco Diglot Moderator Gibraltar Joined 7023 days ago 3795 posts - 4268 votes Speaks: Spanish, English* Personal Language Map
| Message 13 of 28 27 April 2006 at 4:14pm | IP Logged |
maxb wrote:
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It might be because the news is usually pronounced very "correctly" even though the content is not very interesting. Still, I suppose a good audiobook would be better!
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nhk9 Senior Member Canada Joined 6812 days ago 290 posts - 319 votes Speaks: English*
| Message 14 of 28 27 April 2006 at 5:11pm | IP Logged |
patuco wrote:
maxb wrote:
I'm a bit surprised that there is so much interest in studying news in language learning. |
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It might be because the news is usually pronounced very "correctly" even though the content is not very interesting. Still, I suppose a good audiobook would be better! |
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Besides the pronounciation, there's also the added benefit of listening to different articles everyday. We would also be assured that the speed of the spoken language is what natives are accustomed to, in contrast to some language learning CDs in which dialogues maybe spoken slower deliberately for language learners (not to mention that building a library of CDs for a language can be costly).
And then there's this problem of not being able to find anything else to listen to other than news. Take Japanese for example. Almost all sound files out there are of the beginner/lower intermediate type (mostly greetings etc.) For the more advanced learner, news is the only choice for listening to material that is more challenging than simply the rest of the files out there (aside from purchasing pricey CDs)
I have found another link for the German from a Swedish website. I will add the German link and the Finnish/Russian links that geranio99 so kindly gave us to the first post. I hope one day the administrator may consider gathering all the good sound file sites out there for the different languages.
Edited by nhk9 on 27 April 2006 at 5:12pm
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M-Squared Senior Member United States Joined 7147 days ago 117 posts - 118 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Spanish
| Message 15 of 28 27 April 2006 at 6:47pm | IP Logged |
I think there are a lot of advantages to News for language learning. Over the
long term (weeks) it covers a lot of ground, and so a lot of vocabulary. In the
short term, day to day, there tends to be a lot of reptition. So, when you've
learned one day carefully you can get a lot of the next day, and learning can
be incremental.
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Andy E Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 7111 days ago 1651 posts - 1939 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, French
| Message 16 of 28 28 April 2006 at 2:39am | IP Logged |
patuco wrote:
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This is indeed a factor. Another is, there's fresh content every day and most importantly it's free!
If, like me, you are interested in current affairs and read newspapers and watch news programmes in your own language, then having a continual source of subject matter available in other languages is of great benefit and interest.
I can't say I'm bothered by the Japan-centric bias of the articles - that's to be expected. It's International News from their perspective not from ours.
If it wasn't for the site, I would have missed Nissan announcing the opening of an assembly plant in Russia (and they are following Toyota), something that might be Japan-centric but has economic implications for any country which boasts an automotive workforce - where they go, others may follow.
Regarding the accuracy, I've yet to have any particular problems - I had two sentences chopped from the audio in one article (possibly to keep the length to 10 minutes) and the bulletin (in Spanish at least) seems to end with a quick look at exchange rates and there's no transcript for that.
Andy.
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