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| rtickner Diglot Groupie AustraliaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 3510 days ago 61 posts - 95 votes  Speaks: English*, GermanB2 Studies: French, Spanish | Message 9 of 35 13 June 2015 at 4:42pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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Hi Cavesa, assuming you have a reasonable evaluation of your current level in German
as per the CEFR scale, preparation for the corresponding level of exam is easy: Step 1 - grab an exam preparation book for your level and work through it front to back. Takes 3 or 4 nights' work. I used the Fit fürs Goethe-Zertifikat series for A1, A2, B1 and B2. Step 2 - go to the Goethe Institut website and the TELC website and download as many practice exams as you can find for your level (you should be able to get 3 or 4). Complete one of these per night until done. Assuming you are able to complete the sample exams in the time allotted with a decent score, you should have no problem whatsoever when sitting the real exam. Using this approach, I was able to pass the exams with A1=100%, A2=100%, B1=97%, B2=mid 80's%. Nothing out of the ordinary in the exams, your coursework/grammar/native materials should prepare you well, given enough time and attention, with the main purpose of the preparation outlined above being to introduce you to the format of the exam. Good luck if you do decide to take an exam, do let us know how you get on with it. Edited by rtickner on 13 June 2015 at 4:43pm 3 persons have voted this message useful | |||||||||
| rtickner Diglot Groupie AustraliaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 3510 days ago 61 posts - 95 votes Speaks: English*, GermanB2 Studies: French, Spanish | Message 10 of 35 13 June 2015 at 4:55pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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Danke für die Empfehlungen Patrick, ich werde zuhören wenn ich die Zeit finden kann (weil
ich leider zurzeit meine Freizeit verbringen muss, mein Spanisch zu etablieren). Nachdem werde ich mein Deutsch verbessern (obwohl ehrlich gesagt, ich weiß noch nicht genau wie). 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| rtickner Diglot Groupie AustraliaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 3510 days ago 61 posts - 95 votes Speaks: English*, GermanB2 Studies: French, Spanish | Message 11 of 35 16 June 2015 at 9:38am | IP Logged | ||||||||
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I am now ramping up my studies with the intention of sitting the Goethe-Institut C1 exam
sooner rather than later. I have listened to ~7 hours of podcasts yesterday whilst driving to/from Sydney for work, which were a lot of fun (Fitness mit M.A.R.K and Effizienter Lernen-Arbeiten-Leben). Would welcome recommendations from members who have reached C1 (or are on their way from B2 to C1) as to materials you used, etc. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| patrickwilken Senior Member Germany radiant-flux.net Joined 4525 days ago 1546 posts - 3200 votes Studies: German | Message 12 of 35 16 June 2015 at 12:47pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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Have you tried listening to Deutschlandradio Funk? I am sure it's in the C1 range, has hours of talk per day and is free...
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| rtickner Diglot Groupie AustraliaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 3510 days ago 61 posts - 95 votes Speaks: English*, GermanB2 Studies: French, Spanish | Message 13 of 35 17 June 2015 at 7:57am | IP Logged | ||||||||
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Thanks Patrick, I've listened to 3 hours of the Deutschlandfunk live stream so far,
great to have on in the background. In the interests of measuring the B2 to C1 transition, I'll be keeping the statistics in the first post of this thread. I have realistically done little with German since my B2 exam to improve it, neither has it noticeably degraded, so I hold the "zero" point of the stats above at a typical B2 level. People of HTLAL, place your bets - what will the total hours be at the time I pass the C1 exam at the Goethe-Institut? Edited by rtickner on 19 June 2015 at 1:35am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| patrickwilken Senior Member Germany radiant-flux.net Joined 4525 days ago 1546 posts - 3200 votes Studies: German | Message 14 of 35 17 June 2015 at 10:31am | IP Logged | ||||||||
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I think what is critical for reading is page/words, not time (i.e., if you are a slow reader you'll just have to read for longer).
What are "workbooks" and "vocabulary"? I am not sure how much use "passive" listening is. If I am not listening actively, I am basically not listening at all. My own impression is that it takes about twice as long to move through each level as the one before. So what time it took you to get from B1 to B2, try doubling it for a rough estimate of the time till C1. Edited by patrickwilken on 17 June 2015 at 10:31am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| rtickner Diglot Groupie AustraliaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 3510 days ago 61 posts - 95 votes Speaks: English*, GermanB2 Studies: French, Spanish | Message 15 of 35 17 June 2015 at 3:25pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
Agreed, though it might be interesting looking back on this to see how long it actually took me to get through X pages.
I'll be hitting a few grammar exercise books and some exam preparation books leading up to the C1 exam. I have a few areas that need some work e.g. adjective endings. Also, I've got a fairly decent 5,000 word German list in Anki that I'm going to burn through quickly (read: if I know it off the bat, the card gets suspended. If there's something about it I don't know right away e.g. gender, plural form, preposition, I will review it for a day or two. Probably unnecessary, but it won't take long to do, and then I'll be confident that there aren't any gaps in the top ~5000.
There are so many theories on this, from "it's practically useless" to Khatz's "18 to 24 hours a day, even when sleeping" philosophy. In practice, when I have something on in the background (music, news, etc.), most of it floats right past my head and out the window, though I do catch occasional snippets and find that to be a catalyst to speak/think to myself in German. So while it's not part of my "active" German plan towards C1, it's kind of fun to have floating about. I guess living in Berlin, you get that part for free! 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||||||||
| rtickner Diglot Groupie AustraliaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 3510 days ago 61 posts - 95 votes Speaks: English*, GermanB2 Studies: French, Spanish | Message 16 of 35 20 June 2015 at 3:44pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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Updated stats in the first post. Looking around for a tutor at the moment in the area,
for some good speaking practice and feedback. Having little time this week for any writing/reading/speaking (just bought a house and we're in the process of moving), it's been spent mostly listening to podcasts (fantastic!) and music (just discovered Sportfreunde Stiller... how did I not know this band existed before now?!?!). 1 person has voted this message useful |
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