numerodix Trilingual Hexaglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 6774 days ago 856 posts - 1226 votes Speaks: EnglishC2*, Norwegian*, Polish*, Italian, Dutch, French Studies: Portuguese, Mandarin
| Message 1 of 22 28 August 2009 at 2:53pm | IP Logged |
Has anyone been using comic books to brush up on idioms? I used to read them voraciously as a kid and I think it would be a fine way to access the colloquial language. Granted, it's kids language, but that too is part of the language you're learning. And much of it is still part of the general idiom.
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Lizzern Diglot Senior Member Norway Joined 5900 days ago 791 posts - 1053 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, English Studies: Japanese
| Message 2 of 22 28 August 2009 at 4:12pm | IP Logged |
I haven't really gotten around to looking for any good ones in Italian yet, but I do like reading some of the Norwegians, that aren't aimed at children specifically (e.g. Pondus). They make me laugh, and every once in a while teach me something new or refresh my memory about something that isn't in my active vocabulary but should be. Probably an excellent way to pick up a few things in the languages we're learning, if we find something good. (If anyone knows of any good Italian ones I'd love to hear about them!) If you enjoy it go for it.
Liz
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numerodix Trilingual Hexaglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 6774 days ago 856 posts - 1226 votes Speaks: EnglishC2*, Norwegian*, Polish*, Italian, Dutch, French Studies: Portuguese, Mandarin
| Message 3 of 22 28 August 2009 at 4:28pm | IP Logged |
Bleh Pondus, totally not what I had in mind :D Donald Duck is more like it! I was in Italy this summer, too bad I didn't think of it.
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Cainntear Pentaglot Senior Member Scotland linguafrankly.blogsp Joined 6002 days ago 4399 posts - 7687 votes Speaks: Lowland Scots, English*, French, Spanish, Scottish Gaelic Studies: Catalan, Italian, German, Irish, Welsh
| Message 4 of 22 28 August 2009 at 6:13pm | IP Logged |
The language in comics isn't always particularly idiomatic -- it's often quite contrived, and relies on puns and other weak attempts at "humour". Caveat emptor.
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patuco Diglot Moderator Gibraltar Joined 7006 days ago 3795 posts - 4268 votes Speaks: Spanish, English* Personal Language Map
| Message 5 of 22 28 August 2009 at 10:55pm | IP Logged |
numerodix wrote:
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Not just for idioms but also 'cos they're fun! Can't beat Tintin in Afrikaans.
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Bao Diglot Senior Member Germany tinyurl.com/pe4kqe5 Joined 5757 days ago 2256 posts - 4046 votes Speaks: German*, English Studies: French, Spanish, Japanese, Mandarin
| Message 6 of 22 29 August 2009 at 12:48am | IP Logged |
Yes, especially as comics originally written in the target language also provide easily digested but valuable information about the target language pop culture as well as general culture. And if you're having fun reading comics, you can use it as an extension to your general study time. So, why not?
Donald Duck isn't what I would have thought of (not twelve anymore - I know, there are many adults who love those books, I'm just not one of them!) but one good point of those stories is that there are a lot that are based on historical events and classics of the world literature, so when you know of the event or story and it's translated well, you get a framework to transfer your general knowledge to the target language.
Edited by Bao on 29 August 2009 at 12:51am
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fanatic Octoglot Senior Member Australia speedmathematics.com Joined 7137 days ago 1152 posts - 1818 votes Speaks: English*, German, French, Afrikaans, Italian, Spanish, Russian, Dutch Studies: Swedish, Norwegian, Polish, Modern Hebrew, Malay, Mandarin, Esperanto
| Message 7 of 22 29 August 2009 at 2:57pm | IP Logged |
I advocate reading comics in my book and on my web page. I read Tintin in many languages, Donald Duck and any local comics. I read Le Journal de Mickey for years to improve my French. It is a fun way to practise.
I found I couldn't use the English Donald Duck comics with my students in Germany because of the spelling, like I gotta and I wanna. I thought it would be too confusing.
I first encountered Asterix in France. I also like cartoons with one simple punch line. All of these are good for immersion days or when you simply feel too lazy to put in the effort. I like to associate learning the language with having fun.
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Dragan Tetraglot Newbie Yugoslavia Joined 5556 days ago 1 posts - 1 votes Speaks: Serbo-Croatian, Croatian, Serbian*, English Studies: French
| Message 8 of 22 30 August 2009 at 12:32pm | IP Logged |
Lizzern wrote:
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You must be kidding, some of the best comic books ever are natively Italian, and the good thing is that they are aimed at adults also. It is, as I like to call it, an Italian style, although it is not that well known internationally (they are popular in Italy and ex Yugoslavia).
Anyway, here are some of the best (if you can't find paperbacks, the scanned versions are available on emule):
1. Alan Ford (since 1969). Look for older episodes (the first 75 issues), they are literal and graphical masterpieces. A strong social critique, through dark humour. Reissued around the clock so I think they are easy to find in Italy (abroad, try the download sites).
2. Corto Maltese
3. Dylan Dog - Umberto Eco likes it :)
4. Martin Mystere
5. Mister No
6. A whole bunch of (anti)heroes from Bonelli comics similar to 3 - 5.
Edited by Dragan on 30 August 2009 at 12:42pm
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