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Iversen Super Polyglot Moderator Denmark berejst.dk Joined 6694 days ago 9078 posts - 16473 votes Speaks: Danish*, French, English, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Swedish, Esperanto, Romanian, Catalan Studies: Afrikaans, Greek, Norwegian, Russian, Serbian, Icelandic, Latin, Irish, Lowland Scots, Indonesian, Polish, Croatian Personal Language Map
| Message 9 of 22 11 September 2009 at 5:54pm | IP Logged |
I have used bilingual versions for several languages of the two Books of King's because they are reasonably entertaining. The bilinguals can be produced through the multilingual bible system in http://www.lexilogos.com/bible_multilingue.htm
Edited by Iversen on 14 September 2009 at 1:38pm
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| JW Hexaglot Senior Member United States youtube.com/user/egw Joined 6113 days ago 1802 posts - 2011 votes 22 sounds Speaks: English*, German, Spanish, Ancient Greek, French, Biblical Hebrew Studies: Luxembourgish, Dutch, Greek, Italian
| Message 10 of 22 14 September 2009 at 5:03pm | IP Logged |
wraith720 wrote:
TDC wrote:
How is the language in the bible in other languages? In English it all sounds old and not like modern English with the 'thee' and 'thy'...and the 'thou art'... |
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Hey, I know a website that would be great for this thread - it's www.biblegateway.com and has the entire Bible in several languages and in several versions. They have some of the more modern English translations like the NIV if you want to check that out, TDC.
I'm not sure what the style is like in some of the other languages, though...I imagine there'd also be different versions for different languages, like it is for English. Maybe some of the more gifted polyglots here could tell me =D |
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http://www.biblegateway.com/ is indeed an excellent resource. I use it frequently. For the larger languages it has several versions (e.g., 7 for Spanish, 2 for Italian, 2 for German, 2 for French) but usually only one for the smaller languages (e.g., Dutch). Where there are multiple versions, they normally have a more literal older translation (e.g., the KJV in English, Luther’s Bible in German) along with some of the more modern “thought” translations. These more modern translations are easier for reading as they eliminate the archaic language and awkward constructions (due to translation issues from Hebrew, Greek, and Aramaic) but sometimes they get too free vis-à-vis their translation and you loose the force of the original.
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| nescafe Senior Member Japan Joined 5400 days ago 137 posts - 227 votes
| Message 11 of 22 04 February 2010 at 3:51am | IP Logged |
I also use that site frequently. The Bible is realy a good resource for learning language. I do not know any other book which explains everything from the begining of the universe.
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| Sprachprofi Nonaglot Senior Member Germany learnlangs.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6461 days ago 2608 posts - 4866 votes Speaks: German*, English, French, Esperanto, Greek, Mandarin, Latin, Dutch, Italian Studies: Spanish, Arabic (Written), Swahili, Indonesian, Japanese, Modern Hebrew, Portuguese
| Message 12 of 22 04 February 2010 at 6:35pm | IP Logged |
If you use the Bible before using a textbook, or if there is no textbook for the language you're studying, I can recommend the very beginning of the Gospel of John. The sentences there are possibly the easiest in structure in the entire Bible.
I used this to start off a course in Biblical Latin which dives straight into the Vulgate Latin Bible rather than weighing you down with lots of grammar, vocabulary and constructed texts first.
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| dmaddock1 Senior Member United States Joined 5424 days ago 174 posts - 426 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Italian, Esperanto, Latin, Ancient Greek
| Message 13 of 22 23 April 2010 at 6:13pm | IP Logged |
Some New Testament specific advice: Mounce's A Graded Reader of Biblical Greek uses the following passages:
- 1 John 1:1-2:2, 2:28-3:10
- John 15:1-27
- Mark 1:1-28
- Colossians 1:1-23
- Matthew 6:5-34
- Romans 3:21-26; 5:1-11; 8:1-17
- James 1:1-21
- 1 Timothy 4:6-16
- Luke 23:26-49; 24:1-8
- Ephesians 1:1-14
- Acts 2:22-42
- 2 Thessalonians 2:1-12
- Hebrews 5:11-6:12
- Revelation 5
- Psalm 41
- Didache 1:1-6; 7:1-4; 11:1-6
Of course, the Psalms passage is from the LXX. The Didache is a non-canonical book from the apostolic fathers. Following Mounce's graded program before trying to read a whole book might be a good idea (and is my plan).
When you're ready to read whole books, consult the following table. As recommended by didaskalos in this thread, here is a table from "Greek Grammar Beyond the Basics", by Daniel Wallace.
Semitic / Vulgar
Revelation
Mark
John, 1-3 John
2 Peter
Conversational
most of Paul
Matthew
Literary Koine
Hebrews
Luke-Acts
James
Pastorals (ie. 1&2 Timothy, Titus)
1 Peter
Jude
Each category is "listed in descending order of purity". Meaning, Hebrews is the most literary; Revelation is the most Semitic/Vulgar. Note, that doesn't make Revelation easiest of course, due to its symbolic genre.
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| Smart Tetraglot Senior Member United States Joined 5330 days ago 352 posts - 398 votes Speaks: Spanish, English*, Latin, French Studies: German
| Message 14 of 22 24 April 2010 at 2:57am | IP Logged |
JW wrote:
wraith720 wrote:
TDC wrote:
How is the language in the bible in other languages? In English it all sounds old and not like modern English with the 'thee' and 'thy'...and the 'thou art'... |
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Hey, I know a website that would be great for this thread - it's www.biblegateway.com and has the entire Bible in several languages and in several versions. They have some of the more modern English translations like the NIV if you want to check that out, TDC.
I'm not sure what the style is like in some of the other languages, though...I imagine there'd also be different versions for different languages, like it is for English. Maybe some of the more gifted polyglots here could tell me =D |
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http://www.biblegateway.com/ is indeed an excellent resource. I use it frequently. For the larger languages it has several versions (e.g., 7 for Spanish, 2 for Italian, 2 for German, 2 for French) but usually only one for the smaller languages (e.g., Dutch). Where there are multiple versions, they normally have a more literal older translation (e.g., the KJV in English, Luther’s Bible in German) along with some of the more modern “thought” translations. These more modern translations are easier for reading as they eliminate the archaic language and awkward constructions (due to translation issues from Hebrew, Greek, and Aramaic) but sometimes they get too free vis-à-vis their translation and you loose the force of the original.
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Yes that is a great site.
However, one might find this interesting also:
www.bible.cc
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| JW Hexaglot Senior Member United States youtube.com/user/egw Joined 6113 days ago 1802 posts - 2011 votes 22 sounds Speaks: English*, German, Spanish, Ancient Greek, French, Biblical Hebrew Studies: Luxembourgish, Dutch, Greek, Italian
| Message 15 of 22 24 April 2010 at 4:10am | IP Logged |
Smart wrote:
..one might find this interesting also:
www.bible.cc |
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Yes, I use that site and it is indeed excellent--especially the interlinear part. I believe that is the only site that has an interlinear with parsing--at least in the Greek.
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| Splog Diglot Senior Member Czech Republic anthonylauder.c Joined 5660 days ago 1062 posts - 3263 votes Speaks: English*, Czech Studies: Mandarin
| Message 16 of 22 24 April 2010 at 7:14am | IP Logged |
Are there free versions of the bible in MP3 format available for download in various languages? I know for novels and so on these have to be purchased, but I wondered if some religious groups have put out free audio bibles. I ask, because I would be interested in trying the Listening-Reading method with the bible.
p.s. I don't want to pay for audio because I am not a christian, but free audio may compel me to give it a go simply for the language-learning benefits.
Edited by Splog on 24 April 2010 at 7:16am
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