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numerodix Trilingual Hexaglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 6775 days ago 856 posts - 1226 votes Speaks: English^C2, Norwegian, Polish*, Italian, Dutch, French Studies: Portuguese, Mandarin	Message 33 of 52 25 November 2011 at 9:57am \| IP Logged
	That's it then, I'm starting the Dutch course next year. The test I took was so trivial I can't imagine possibly having failed it. In other news I've become a little disillusioned with my French reading and I've jumped across to Spanish. Which is a strange experience. I feel like I'm listening to Italian, yet the words are all different, yet I still have a near perfect concept of the grammar which is basically identical. 1 person has voted this message useful
numerodix Trilingual Hexaglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 6775 days ago 856 posts - 1226 votes Speaks: English^C2, Norwegian, Polish*, Italian, Dutch, French Studies: Portuguese, Mandarin	Message 34 of 52 12 January 2012 at 4:36pm \| IP Logged
	Brace yourselves, for I have just found out about Lingua Latina. Just based on the few sample pages available online it looks really interesting. I don't see myself really studing latin, but with this integrated and graded approach I wonder if it'd be possible to read it a bit like a novel. Just the idea that someone would write such a book is so awesome, bringing it all to life. 1 person has voted this message useful
ericblair Senior Member United States Joined 4703 days ago 480 posts - 700 votes Speaks: English* Studies: French	Message 35 of 52 28 January 2012 at 9:08am \| IP Logged
	numerodix, I just came across your initial Italian log. It is very interesting. I wanted to congratulate you on your success! I am on around day 19 of Assimil :) I found one insightful line of your log was saying that you went back to Assimil, but none of the things were really new and that you had taken a different path to the same spot. It is cool and reassuring for many, I think, to know that many paths can get them where they want to be! I hope your studies are going well. 1 person has voted this message useful
numerodix Trilingual Hexaglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 6775 days ago 856 posts - 1226 votes Speaks: English^C2, Norwegian, Polish*, Italian, Dutch, French Studies: Portuguese, Mandarin	Message 36 of 52 18 February 2012 at 11:21am \| IP Logged
	For anyone interested I posted a summary of my language activities over the past 2.5 years, ever since I started learning Italian here on HTLAL. Summary 2.5 years is a good amount of time, yet not that long in language learning terms. Still, in this period I've enriched my life enormously by including these new languages into my life. Edited by numerodix on 18 February 2012 at 11:23am 1 person has voted this message useful
ReneeMona Diglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 5327 days ago 864 posts - 1274 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English^C2 Studies: French	Message 37 of 52 18 February 2012 at 1:11pm \| IP Logged
	Congratulations on all your progress with Italian, numerodix! I like the way you write about independent language learning. I have the same problem of getting stuck sometimes but at the same time, getting to choose my own materials and slapping it all together however I want is exactly what I love most about learning languages on my own. It makes my achievements all the more satisfying to think that I did it all myself. Trouwens, mijn complimenten voor het stukje in het Nederlands dat je op de veertiende hebt gepost. Het is niet geheel foutloos maar het leest heel lekker. Je hebt een manier van fouten maken die in het geheel niet storend zijn. :P 1 person has voted this message useful
numerodix Trilingual Hexaglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 6775 days ago 856 posts - 1226 votes Speaks: English^C2, Norwegian, Polish*, Italian, Dutch, French Studies: Portuguese, Mandarin	Message 38 of 52 18 February 2012 at 2:12pm \| IP Logged
	That's one thing (the making your own program), but equally important imo is that there's noone setting goals for you. There is no "after year 3 you will have completed the textbook Ciao, straniero 3". Noone is deciding what is possible to achieve and the result is that you can achieve far more than you thought was possible. Weet je, dat stukje vind ik heel vervelend. De idee was heel fijn, het is plezierijk te schrijven, maar dan is het feel fout gegaan. Ik was van plan wat voorbeelden te geven van dingen die ik gecreërd heb, maar die ochtend moest ik snel afsluiten om naar werk te gaan, dus had ik het te druk en de gevolg is dat nu als ik dat stukje lees voel ik daaraan geen plezier. :P Als ik je iets mag aanraden dan zou ik zeggen lees een van die vorige, die zijn veel beter. Edited by numerodix on 18 February 2012 at 2:15pm 1 person has voted this message useful
numerodix Trilingual Hexaglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 6775 days ago 856 posts - 1226 votes Speaks: English^C2, Norwegian, Polish*, Italian, Dutch, French Studies: Portuguese, Mandarin	Message 39 of 52 24 March 2012 at 12:44pm \| IP Logged
	So I'm on a total opportunistic quest now, apparently. It's fun to stretch myself :) Finished my first Portuguese book this week, was quite doable. I'm very poor at listening though, so I have an audiobook lined up as well. Later this year I'm considering trying Catalan, German and Latin (using Lingua Latina). No real plan, just "would be cool". Every time I think to myself a certain language is "a bridge too far" and "not my cup of tea" I seem to reconsider a few months later. This brings my total of languages I can read in to 11: 1 Afrikaans 4 Dansk 133 English 2 Español 18 Français 88 Italiano 30 Nederlands 15 Norsk 29 Polski 1 Português 5 Svenska Edited by numerodix on 24 March 2012 at 12:48pm 1 person has voted this message useful
numerodix Trilingual Hexaglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 6775 days ago 856 posts - 1226 votes Speaks: English^C2, Norwegian, Polish*, Italian, Dutch, French Studies: Portuguese, Mandarin	Message 40 of 52 01 April 2012 at 8:00pm \| IP Logged
	A new idea I had. My first 4-way story. Not very good, but okay for a first try. - Bonjour, monsieur. Qu’est-ce que vous voulez manger? - Bom dia. - No no no, Roberto, fais pas ça! Il faut toujours parler francais avec le gens du pays quand on est en France. Ils devient fous si tu fais autrement. - Porque? El portugués no es una idioma muy complicada. Yo entiendo fácilmente los turistas en Madrid cuando me preguntan el camino por algún lugar. - Eu não falo francês, Michel. Só posso falar inglês. - No, ça c’est pire encore! - Ma rilassati, Michel. Che possono farci se non parliamo francese? Ci capiamo benissimo tra di noi. Questo basta per intenderci. - Eu entendo tudo o que dizem os franceses. Assim eles podem entender-me também. - Sí, esto me parece muy lógico. - Alors, avez-vous décidé? - Per favore, signore, non stia lì a spiarci facendo finta di non capire. O partecipi alla discussione o si allontani. Se non ordiniamo è perché non siamo pronti. - Mas eu estou pronto, só que não posso pedir na língua justa! - Yo también estoy listo para pedir. - Guys, what the hell are you talking about?? I don’t understand a damn word of what you’re saying. - Les mecs, nous avons oublié que David est avec nous! If you spot errors, please say. :) 1 person has voted this message useful

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numerodix Trilingual Hexaglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 6775 days ago 856 posts - 1226 votes Speaks: English^C2, Norwegian, Polish*, Italian, Dutch, French Studies: Portuguese, Mandarin	Message 33 of 52 25 November 2011 at 9:57am \| IP Logged
	That's it then, I'm starting the Dutch course next year. The test I took was so trivial I can't imagine possibly having failed it. In other news I've become a little disillusioned with my French reading and I've jumped across to Spanish. Which is a strange experience. I feel like I'm listening to Italian, yet the words are all different, yet I still have a near perfect concept of the grammar which is basically identical. 1 person has voted this message useful
numerodix Trilingual Hexaglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 6775 days ago 856 posts - 1226 votes Speaks: English^C2, Norwegian, Polish*, Italian, Dutch, French Studies: Portuguese, Mandarin	Message 34 of 52 12 January 2012 at 4:36pm \| IP Logged
	Brace yourselves, for I have just found out about Lingua Latina. Just based on the few sample pages available online it looks really interesting. I don't see myself really studing latin, but with this integrated and graded approach I wonder if it'd be possible to read it a bit like a novel. Just the idea that someone would write such a book is so awesome, bringing it all to life. 1 person has voted this message useful
ericblair Senior Member United States Joined 4703 days ago 480 posts - 700 votes Speaks: English* Studies: French	Message 35 of 52 28 January 2012 at 9:08am \| IP Logged
	numerodix, I just came across your initial Italian log. It is very interesting. I wanted to congratulate you on your success! I am on around day 19 of Assimil :) I found one insightful line of your log was saying that you went back to Assimil, but none of the things were really new and that you had taken a different path to the same spot. It is cool and reassuring for many, I think, to know that many paths can get them where they want to be! I hope your studies are going well. 1 person has voted this message useful
numerodix Trilingual Hexaglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 6775 days ago 856 posts - 1226 votes Speaks: English^C2, Norwegian, Polish*, Italian, Dutch, French Studies: Portuguese, Mandarin	Message 36 of 52 18 February 2012 at 11:21am \| IP Logged
	For anyone interested I posted a summary of my language activities over the past 2.5 years, ever since I started learning Italian here on HTLAL. Summary 2.5 years is a good amount of time, yet not that long in language learning terms. Still, in this period I've enriched my life enormously by including these new languages into my life. Edited by numerodix on 18 February 2012 at 11:23am 1 person has voted this message useful
ReneeMona Diglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 5327 days ago 864 posts - 1274 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English^C2 Studies: French	Message 37 of 52 18 February 2012 at 1:11pm \| IP Logged
	Congratulations on all your progress with Italian, numerodix! I like the way you write about independent language learning. I have the same problem of getting stuck sometimes but at the same time, getting to choose my own materials and slapping it all together however I want is exactly what I love most about learning languages on my own. It makes my achievements all the more satisfying to think that I did it all myself. Trouwens, mijn complimenten voor het stukje in het Nederlands dat je op de veertiende hebt gepost. Het is niet geheel foutloos maar het leest heel lekker. Je hebt een manier van fouten maken die in het geheel niet storend zijn. :P 1 person has voted this message useful
numerodix Trilingual Hexaglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 6775 days ago 856 posts - 1226 votes Speaks: English^C2, Norwegian, Polish*, Italian, Dutch, French Studies: Portuguese, Mandarin	Message 38 of 52 18 February 2012 at 2:12pm \| IP Logged
	That's one thing (the making your own program), but equally important imo is that there's noone setting goals for you. There is no "after year 3 you will have completed the textbook Ciao, straniero 3". Noone is deciding what is possible to achieve and the result is that you can achieve far more than you thought was possible. Weet je, dat stukje vind ik heel vervelend. De idee was heel fijn, het is plezierijk te schrijven, maar dan is het feel fout gegaan. Ik was van plan wat voorbeelden te geven van dingen die ik gecreërd heb, maar die ochtend moest ik snel afsluiten om naar werk te gaan, dus had ik het te druk en de gevolg is dat nu als ik dat stukje lees voel ik daaraan geen plezier. :P Als ik je iets mag aanraden dan zou ik zeggen lees een van die vorige, die zijn veel beter. Edited by numerodix on 18 February 2012 at 2:15pm 1 person has voted this message useful
numerodix Trilingual Hexaglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 6775 days ago 856 posts - 1226 votes Speaks: English^C2, Norwegian, Polish*, Italian, Dutch, French Studies: Portuguese, Mandarin	Message 39 of 52 24 March 2012 at 12:44pm \| IP Logged
	So I'm on a total opportunistic quest now, apparently. It's fun to stretch myself :) Finished my first Portuguese book this week, was quite doable. I'm very poor at listening though, so I have an audiobook lined up as well. Later this year I'm considering trying Catalan, German and Latin (using Lingua Latina). No real plan, just "would be cool". Every time I think to myself a certain language is "a bridge too far" and "not my cup of tea" I seem to reconsider a few months later. This brings my total of languages I can read in to 11: 1 Afrikaans 4 Dansk 133 English 2 Español 18 Français 88 Italiano 30 Nederlands 15 Norsk 29 Polski 1 Português 5 Svenska Edited by numerodix on 24 March 2012 at 12:48pm 1 person has voted this message useful
numerodix Trilingual Hexaglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 6775 days ago 856 posts - 1226 votes Speaks: English^C2, Norwegian, Polish*, Italian, Dutch, French Studies: Portuguese, Mandarin	Message 40 of 52 01 April 2012 at 8:00pm \| IP Logged
	A new idea I had. My first 4-way story. Not very good, but okay for a first try. - Bonjour, monsieur. Qu’est-ce que vous voulez manger? - Bom dia. - No no no, Roberto, fais pas ça! Il faut toujours parler francais avec le gens du pays quand on est en France. Ils devient fous si tu fais autrement. - Porque? El portugués no es una idioma muy complicada. Yo entiendo fácilmente los turistas en Madrid cuando me preguntan el camino por algún lugar. - Eu não falo francês, Michel. Só posso falar inglês. - No, ça c’est pire encore! - Ma rilassati, Michel. Che possono farci se non parliamo francese? Ci capiamo benissimo tra di noi. Questo basta per intenderci. - Eu entendo tudo o que dizem os franceses. Assim eles podem entender-me também. - Sí, esto me parece muy lógico. - Alors, avez-vous décidé? - Per favore, signore, non stia lì a spiarci facendo finta di non capire. O partecipi alla discussione o si allontani. Se non ordiniamo è perché non siamo pronti. - Mas eu estou pronto, só que não posso pedir na língua justa! - Yo también estoy listo para pedir. - Guys, what the hell are you talking about?? I don’t understand a damn word of what you’re saying. - Les mecs, nous avons oublié que David est avec nous! If you spot errors, please say. :) 1 person has voted this message useful