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Alamo Joe Newbie United States Joined 4050 days ago 17 posts - 31 votes
| Message 33 of 74 20 October 2013 at 2:21am | IP Logged |
1e4e6 wrote:
I do not have much expereince in Scandinavian languages compared to Romance, but few
years ago when I learnt Norwegian from books (I am not sure what to call standard
Norwegian, but only what was in my books), the grammar seemed fairly straightforward, a
bit like Dutch, not as many tenses as Portuguese, for example, and indicative mood is
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Would you say that Scandinavian languages are easier, harder or equally as difficult as Dutch for a native English speaker?
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| montmorency Diglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4818 days ago 2371 posts - 3676 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Danish, Welsh
| Message 34 of 74 20 October 2013 at 2:41am | IP Logged |
Alamo Joe wrote:
1e4e6 wrote:
I do not have much expereince in Scandinavian
languages compared to Romance, but few
years ago when I learnt Norwegian from books (I am not sure what to call standard
Norwegian, but only what was in my books), the grammar seemed fairly straightforward, a
bit like Dutch, not as many tenses as Portuguese, for example, and indicative mood is
usually predominant. |
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Would you say that Scandinavian languages are easier, harder or equally as difficult as
Dutch for a native English speaker? |
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In my limited experience, slightly easier, but overall, probably about the same.
In all cases, listening comprehension is (IMHO) the really tricky part.
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| tricoteuse Pentaglot Senior Member Norway littlang.blogspot.co Joined 6668 days ago 745 posts - 845 votes Speaks: Swedish*, Norwegian, EnglishC1, Russian, French Studies: Ukrainian, Bulgarian
| Message 35 of 74 22 October 2013 at 11:56am | IP Logged |
I think that the only non-Swedish Scandinavian culture Swedes get would be Danish crime
series. I never had access to anything Norwegian, had hardly ever heard it spoken (I
heard a Norwegian hold a presentation once at my school, that's pretty much it) and never
read a newspaper or a book in it before moving to Norway. There was never any Norwegian
or Danish TV available, either.
And to answer the original question, I think Swedish would be the easiest to learn of the
three.
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| Solfrid Cristin Heptaglot Winner TAC 2011 & 2012 Senior Member Norway Joined 5324 days ago 4143 posts - 8864 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, Spanish, Swedish, French, English, German, Italian Studies: Russian
| Message 36 of 74 22 October 2013 at 12:01pm | IP Logged |
tricoteuse wrote:
And to answer the original question, I think Swedish would be the easiest to learn of the
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The original question was which language which would be easiest grammatically. Which grammatical difficulties do you find in Norwegian that are non-existant in Swedish?
Edited by Solfrid Cristin on 22 October 2013 at 12:01pm
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| tricoteuse Pentaglot Senior Member Norway littlang.blogspot.co Joined 6668 days ago 745 posts - 845 votes Speaks: Swedish*, Norwegian, EnglishC1, Russian, French Studies: Ukrainian, Bulgarian
| Message 37 of 74 22 October 2013 at 12:08pm | IP Logged |
Solfrid Cristin wrote:
tricoteuse wrote:
And to answer the original question, I
think Swedish would be the easiest to learn of the
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The original question was which language which would be easiest grammatically. Which
grammatical difficulties do you find in Norwegian that are non-existant in Swedish?
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Ah, I managed to lose track of the original question then! But there is the issue of
genders, which simplifies matters a little bit in Swedish. Trying to come up with other
things here... personal pronouns used as demonstratives/articles! We don't have that in
the standard language, as far as I know. Less variation with pre- and postposed
possessives and the co-occurrence of definiteness. Not big things, admittedly :P I
think the use of various future modals may also be more complex in Norwegian. I've
never heard people (= foreigners) misuse "ska/skal" as brutally in Swedish as they do
in Norwegian, so I suspect the different semantic spheres of the auxiliaries are more
clear-cut in standard Swedish, whereas they may overlap more in Norwegian.
(This is not based on any research :P)
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| aokoye Diglot Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5531 days ago 235 posts - 453 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Dutch, Norwegian, Japanese
| Message 38 of 74 23 October 2013 at 1:52am | IP Logged |
Josquin wrote:
Well, in terms of morphology Danish is simpler than Swedish and
Norwegian, but this is compensated by the complex Danish phonology, i.e. pronunciation.
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Danish phonology made me so frustrated when I took it. It is one of the reasons that I
ended up dropping the course (the other being that i just didn't have the energy to take
it at that time).
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| eyðimörk Triglot Senior Member France goo.gl/aT4FY7 Joined 4089 days ago 490 posts - 1158 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English, French Studies: Breton, Italian
| Message 39 of 74 23 October 2013 at 8:42am | IP Logged |
tricoteuse wrote:
I think that the only non-Swedish Scandinavian culture Swedes get would be Danish crime
series. I never had access to anything Norwegian, had hardly ever heard it spoken (I
heard a Norwegian hold a presentation once at my school, that's pretty much it) and never
read a newspaper or a book in it before moving to Norway. There was never any Norwegian
or Danish TV available, either. |
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This may be a product of WHERE and WHEN I grew up in Sweden, but until the advent of digital television I always had access to Danish television (multiple channels), and for most of that time I also had access to Norwegian television (single channel). In fact, when TV3 was launched we got the same channel in all three languages.
Growing up, Danish TV was very much a part of the repertoire. I was actually very bitter about that at the time since my grandparents refused to miss even one episode that Danish "Wheel of Fortune" show that I could barely follow at the time, and it aired before the children's programming was over on Swedish television.
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jeff_lindqvist Diglot Moderator SwedenRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6899 days ago 4250 posts - 5711 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: German, Spanish, Russian, Dutch, Mandarin, Esperanto, Irish, French Personal Language Map
| Message 40 of 74 23 October 2013 at 9:50am | IP Logged |
tricoteuse wrote:
I think that the only non-Swedish Scandinavian culture Swedes get would be Danish crime series. I never had access to anything Norwegian, had hardly ever heard it spoken (I heard a Norwegian hold a presentation once at my school, that's pretty much it) and never read a newspaper or a book in it before moving to Norway. There was never any Norwegian or Danish TV available, either. |
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Huh? I've never had access to Danish or Norwegian TV channels, but I remember watching children's programs in both languages (on SVT) when I was a kid. A while ago, I thought we got more input when I was young, but a few months ago when I leafed through the TV guide, there was hardly a day without a show/series/movie/life style program in either of the languages (on both SVT1 and SVT2). Some days, we had half a dozen (!) programs from Danmark, Norway and Finland.
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