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Tristano’s log 2015 [EN|FR|NL|RU|ES] | ||
Tags: Lithuanian | Burn-out | Dutch | Portuguese | Total Annihilation Challenge (TAC) | Russian | English | French | Spanish | ||
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| tristano Tetraglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 4039 days ago 905 posts - 1262 votes  Speaks: Italian*, Spanish, French, English Studies: Dutch | Message 73 of 177 07 February 2015 at 5:37pm | IP Logged |
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While waiting 6pm to start my next Spanish tutoring, I scheduled 3 lessons for next week.
This time I scheduled two lessons with 2 latin american speakers: one from Venezuela and another one from Mexico, to see if I can communicate effectively also with them. The third lesson is with the teacher that destroyed me yesterday. She's a professional teacher, she saw that I'm able to fake an higher level by taking control of the conversation and she pushed me totally out of my comfort zone. I definitely need someone like this, even if she's not the most agreeable teacher I ever met. I'm curious to see, Monday, if my Spanish annihilation is impacting my French. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |
| tristano Tetraglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 4039 days ago 905 posts - 1262 votes Speaks: Italian*, Spanish, French, English Studies: Dutch | Message 74 of 177 09 February 2015 at 10:18pm | IP Logged |
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After some week, finally the level of the French course increased.
Today we did a listening comprehension that was crazy. It was everything that makes the comprehension very difficult: - terrible sound - unclear speech - a speaker that was using absurd constructions to show off - there was a question in the exercise that sounds more or less like "enumerate the names of all the French people in decreasing order". Meh. Either the difficulty of the course increased or I getting worse. 3 persons have voted this message useful | |
| s.mann Groupie United States lang-8.com/973514/jo Joined 3630 days ago 55 posts - 76 votes Speaks: English* Studies: French | Message 75 of 177 09 February 2015 at 11:42pm | IP Logged |
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The listening comprehension exercise sounds good. It's funny, I tend to try to clean up audio, like
the FSI stuff, but there might be a benefit to putting up with the hiss to practice straining for the vocals. The GLOSS exercises I tried had bad recordings, but now I'm wondering if that wasn't intentional. What's working better for you, the conversation class or the tutoring? I think I should invest in one or both in the near future myself. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| tristano Tetraglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 4039 days ago 905 posts - 1262 votes Speaks: Italian*, Spanish, French, English Studies: Dutch | Message 76 of 177 10 February 2015 at 1:30pm | IP Logged |
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I'm attending not a conversation class but a standard class.
I'm starting to find it boring because now we're not anymore focusing on the vocabulary needed to read or to speak in the normal situations, but specific vocabulary that I can totally express in simpler ways when communicating but it is supposed to be learned at advanced stages. Thing that I disagree. To me is much more important to know computer-related vocabulary than health-related ones (for example). Cannot say for the tutoring, I just started. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6589 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 77 of 177 10 February 2015 at 8:06pm | IP Logged |
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Yeah here's a thread about suboptimal audio. (I hope I'm not repeating myself, it's related to accelerated audio as well) To me it sounds like the audio was too difficult, unless you've already worked with many unclear but simple recordings, and many clear recordings with a difficult accent etc.
@tristano, loro sembrano pensare che il vocabolario profissionale sia tua propria responsabilità... 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| tristano Tetraglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 4039 days ago 905 posts - 1262 votes Speaks: Italian*, Spanish, French, English Studies: Dutch | Message 78 of 177 12 February 2015 at 9:40am | IP Logged |
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Si' @Serpent. e questa in generale e' la cosa che meno mi piace delle lezioni in classe:
il contenuto non e' personalizzato, e quindi poco rilevante per me. In questo il tutoring e' molto meglio. So yesterday I had my first case of bad tutoring. I was very tired (9pm and I'm a little ill) so I had hard time concentrating and speak properly with the result of this lesson becoming mostly a listening comprehension. At the classes although sometimes I'm tired and bored and my mind is on a different planet, that it's even worse. Edited by tristano on 12 February 2015 at 3:02pm 2 persons have voted this message useful | |
| tristano Tetraglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 4039 days ago 905 posts - 1262 votes Speaks: Italian*, Spanish, French, English Studies: Dutch | Message 79 of 177 13 February 2015 at 2:37pm | IP Logged |
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My lesson of yesterday has been much much better then the other one.
Conversing with Latin American people is as easy as it is with Spanish people. I have the impression my tutors, noticing that I'm speaking the European variant, they accomodate this in the choice of words and some of the constructions (the girl of yesterday used the 'tu' form instead of the 'usted' for example. I speak Spanish quite quick now but sometimes I have some black hole where I don't know the conjugation or the word to use. I'm not worried about this, it is perfectly normal. Yet my tutors are amazed when I told them that I just listened the radio a couple of months before to start to speak. I've been classified as B1, yet I have huge vocabulary and grammar gaps for what is about the basics. My suspect is that by studying the basic grammar and reading novels, yet taking a lesson per week starting from March, I will be B2 in few months. This experience has been so good until now, that I think I will use the month of March to annihilate Dutch. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6589 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 80 of 177 13 February 2015 at 3:56pm | IP Logged |
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Have I mentioned the series Destinos yet? It was made for learners so the actors don't speak too fast, and it builds up using comprehensible input. I found that a great way to slow down and actually pay attention to every word. I watched with closed captions and found it really useful for noticing all the details.
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