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Radioclare’s tac log 2015 (*jäŋe/*ledús) | ||
Tags: Macedonian | Serbian | Serbo-Croatian | Croatian | Esperanto | Total Annihilation Challenge (TAC) | ||
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| nikolic993 Diglot Senior Member Yugoslavia Joined 3772 days ago 106 posts - 205 votes  Speaks: Serbian*, English Studies: Italian, Mandarin, Romanian, Persian | Message 177 of 292 23 May 2015 at 8:53pm | IP Logged | ||
You were imagining it. The "h" sound gets dropped quite often in informal speech, both in Serbia and Montenegro. :) hleb->'leb; hoćeš?->'oćeš->'ć eš?->'oš?; hvala->'fala; An example for "š" in the Montenegrin accent: sutra,sjutra->šjutra Edited by nikolic993 on 24 May 2015 at 4:05am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Radioclare Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom timeofftakeoff.com Joined 4575 days ago 689 posts - 1119 votes Speaks: English*, German, Esperanto Studies: Croatian, Serbian, Macedonian | Message 178 of 292 23 May 2015 at 11:27pm | IP Logged | ||
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Yes! They say "šjutra" all the time on 'Budva'!
The other one which crops up a lot is "šjedi". I think I read somewhere that the Montenegrin government has tried to add a new letter to the alphabet to represent this "šj" sound, but I can't find the link now. I think it was controversial because it isn't necessarily pronounced like that in all parts of Montenegro. They also pronounce "kćer" in a funny way. I linked to this article before; it's basically a Croatian website reviewing 'Budva' and commenting on how amusing the pronunciation sounds for Croatian viewers. They draw particular attention to the pronunciation of "kćer".
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| Radioclare Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom timeofftakeoff.com Joined 4575 days ago 689 posts - 1119 votes Speaks: English*, German, Esperanto Studies: Croatian, Serbian, Macedonian | Message 179 of 292 26 May 2015 at 11:29pm | IP Logged | ||
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Got back from Sweden in the early hours of the morning and have been exhausted at work
all day, but it was totally worth it :) Sweden is absolutely beautiful, and not as expensive as I expected (Okay, so I was expecting it to be hideously expensive and it turned out to be moderately expensive, but seemingly cheaper than Norway and Finland!). I would definitely go again :) Swedish seems like an interesting language and sometimes I could guess words when they were written down, but I couldn't understand anything at all when it was spoken. I don't think it is a language I could ever learn to speak; it sounds far too melodic and musical for me. I was fascinated though when looking at a pizza menu to see that one of the most common ingredients on the pizzas was "lök". I immediately assumed that that must be onion, because it looks so similar to Croatian "luk", but then I told myself that couldn't possible be right, because why would there be any similarity between the Swedish and Croatian words for "onion"?! But when we looked it up in the dictionary it turns out it does mean onion, so now I am intrigued :) I watched the Eurovision in Swedish and was happy to see the Montenegrin entry singing in Montenegrin. I missed having the UK commentary though; I got the impression that the Swedish commentators were taking everything very seriously. Though it was cool to be in Sweden when Sweden actually won :) I read two books in English while I was away, so didn't read in Croatian at all, but on the way home yesterday I starting reading a German novel called 'Die Zeit, die Zeit' by Martin Suter. I was going to say that Martin Suter is one of my favourite authors in German, but I think he is actually one of my favourite authors, full stop :) 3 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| rdearman Senior Member United Kingdom rdearman.orgRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5228 days ago 881 posts - 1812 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Italian, French, Mandarin | Message 180 of 292 27 May 2015 at 1:02am | IP Logged | ||
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Trust me... Graham Norton wasn't taking it all that seriously. Personally I was rooting for the Italians.
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| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6589 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 181 of 292 27 May 2015 at 5:50am | IP Logged | ||
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Wow, I'm surprised about lök as well. It's also similar in Belarusian/Ukrainian and Portuguese but that's because it's a loan from Latin :D
also "s Lukom" is always so funny to me ;D although aaaaaaaaargh now i typed it in google and this was one of the first things i saw http://www.24sata.hr/nogomet/kovac-pricao-sam-s-lukom-moramo -bez-njega-na-italiju-420846 :( edit: this one made me giggle though http://www.vecernji.hr/moje-zdravlje/biste-li-spavali-s-luko m-u-carapi-nakon-ovoga-cete-pozeljeti-1000000 fascinating too Edited by Serpent on 27 May 2015 at 6:11am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Expugnator Hexaglot Senior Member Brazil Joined 5158 days ago 3335 posts - 4349 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, Norwegian, French, English, Italian, Papiamento Studies: Mandarin, Georgian, Russian | Message 182 of 292 27 May 2015 at 7:46pm | IP Logged | ||
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In Portuguese? How so? 'Cebola' doesn't sound like lök at all to me.
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| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6589 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 183 of 292 27 May 2015 at 7:56pm | IP Logged | ||
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it's similar to цыбуля/цибуля :)
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| Radioclare Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom timeofftakeoff.com Joined 4575 days ago 689 posts - 1119 votes Speaks: English*, German, Esperanto Studies: Croatian, Serbian, Macedonian | Message 184 of 292 28 May 2015 at 12:12am | IP Logged | ||
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In Esperanto it's "cepo", so not too dissimilar to the Portuguese/Belarusian/Ukrainian :)
Serpent, I am now giving serious consideration to sleeping with an onion in my socks to see if it will cure all my allergies :D 1 person has voted this message useful |
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