Blunderstein Triglot Pro Member Sweden schackhandeln.se Joined 5420 days ago 60 posts - 82 votes Speaks: Swedish*, EnglishC2, FrenchB2 Studies: German, Esperanto Personal Language Map
| Message 1 of 54 08 March 2010 at 2:00pm | IP Logged |
Yesterday I met someone who believes that the people who study Esperanto do it because they don't like languages, and therefore only want to learn a very simple one. Hilarious, and about as far from the truth as you can get.
Have you encountered some really ridiculous prejudice about languages? Perhaps "German is only useful for shouting orders to someone in uniform" or "English isn't really suitable for anything but marketing"?
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ember Triglot Groupie CyprusRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5405 days ago 63 posts - 101 votes Speaks: Russian*, English, German Studies: Spanish, French, Greek, Polish
| Message 2 of 54 08 March 2010 at 5:05pm | IP Logged |
"Whatever the Russians are saying it sounds like they are arguing/angry with each other"
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ManicGenius Senior Member United States Joined 5483 days ago 288 posts - 420 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Esperanto, French, Japanese
| Message 3 of 54 08 March 2010 at 5:05pm | IP Logged |
Easy.
You'll hear this from nearly everyone in the states.
"No language matters except English."
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Also when studying German I've been called a Nazi. yeah... that's fun...
And a terrorist when studying Arabic.
And a commie when studying Russian.
Yay for backward-mindedness...
Edit: I need to note here that the FIRST quote about English is what I am referring to. Everyone seems to have taken this wrong and appears to be thinking that I am applying the 3 successive comments to ALL my fellow Americans.
Edited by ManicGenius on 09 March 2010 at 10:21pm
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ManicGenius Senior Member United States Joined 5483 days ago 288 posts - 420 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Esperanto, French, Japanese
| Message 4 of 54 08 March 2010 at 5:07pm | IP Logged |
ember wrote:
"Whatever the Russians are saying it sounds like they are arguing/angry with each other" |
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Russian sound drunk :-P
(No offense intended on that, Russian still sounds kind've slurry to me)
Edited by ManicGenius on 08 March 2010 at 5:08pm
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Chung Diglot Senior Member Joined 7158 days ago 4228 posts - 8259 votes 20 sounds Speaks: English*, French Studies: Polish, Slovak, Uzbek, Turkish, Korean, Finnish
| Message 5 of 54 08 March 2010 at 5:18pm | IP Logged |
Even though I'm fluent in French I have to suppress the urge to level any fool who makes or agrees with the following prejudiced statement: "French is the language of sophistication" (or variants of the preceding).
No form of linguistic prejudice bugs me more than this one which unduly elevates French.
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lichtrausch Triglot Senior Member United States Joined 5962 days ago 525 posts - 1072 votes Speaks: English*, German, Japanese Studies: Korean, Mandarin
| Message 6 of 54 08 March 2010 at 5:23pm | IP Logged |
Chung wrote:
Even though I'm fluent in French I have to suppress the urge to level any fool who makes or agrees with the following prejudiced statement: "French is the language of sophistication" (or variants of the preceding).
No form of linguistic prejudice bugs me more than this one which unduly elevates French.
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It bugs me too since I don't know French. I have a feeling though that If I did speak French I would embrace it.
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Blunderstein Triglot Pro Member Sweden schackhandeln.se Joined 5420 days ago 60 posts - 82 votes Speaks: Swedish*, EnglishC2, FrenchB2 Studies: German, Esperanto Personal Language Map
| Message 7 of 54 08 March 2010 at 5:28pm | IP Logged |
Among Swedes it is sometimes said that "Danish is like Swedish spoken with a hot potato in your mouth".
As for French sophistication: since I started serious reading in French, I have actually found myself reading more sophisticated books than those that I've read in other languages. However, stating that "French is _the_ language of sophistication" proves that sophistication and prejudiced stupidity can co-exist easily.
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Chung Diglot Senior Member Joined 7158 days ago 4228 posts - 8259 votes 20 sounds Speaks: English*, French Studies: Polish, Slovak, Uzbek, Turkish, Korean, Finnish
| Message 8 of 54 08 March 2010 at 5:29pm | IP Logged |
ManicGenius wrote:
ember wrote:
"Whatever the Russians are saying it sounds like they are arguing/angry with each other" |
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Russian sound drunk :-P
(No offense intended on that, Russian still sounds kind've slurry to me) |
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The fact that Russian has vowel reduction may contribute to your interpreting the sound as being slurry or full of indistinct vowels. I got a somewhat similar feeling about Russian's "slurriness" after comparing Russian speech to speech in related languages such as Slovak or BCMS/Serbo-Croatian which do not have vowel reduction.
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