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| slucido Bilingual Diglot Senior Member Spain https://goo.gl/126Yv Joined 6677 days ago 1296 posts - 1781 votes  4 sounds Speaks: Spanish*, Catalan* Studies: English | Message 41 of 87 13 April 2009 at 1:34am | IP Logged | |||||||||||
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Javi, when I write about intensity I mean in a flow state with a lot of focus. When we are in this intensity state we are more efficient. We need time, but we need to develop this intensity state when we are spending time with our target(s) language(s). That's why interesting content, fun or good emotions associated to learning languages are so important. They help us to develop these resourceful states. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||||||||
| Steve Kaufmann Newbie Canada thelinguist.blogs.co Joined 5707 days ago 20 posts - 24 votes | Message 42 of 87 13 April 2009 at 6:18am | IP Logged | |||||||||||
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I cannot answer you Javi, because it depends on what you like to do. Once, however, I am at the same level in a language as you are in English, I no longer use learner content like Assimil.
I totally agree with Slucido's comment. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||||||||
| icing_death Senior Member United States Joined 5863 days ago 296 posts - 302 votes Speaks: English* | Message 43 of 87 13 April 2009 at 8:40am | IP Logged | |||||||||||
Did linq stop using flashcards then? 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||||||||
| Cainntear Pentaglot Senior Member Scotland linguafrankly.blogsp Joined 6013 days ago 4399 posts - 7687 votes Speaks: Lowland Scots, English*, French, Spanish, Scottish Gaelic Studies: Catalan, Italian, German, Irish, Welsh | Message 44 of 87 13 April 2009 at 10:38am | IP Logged | |||||||||||
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If your language is ambiguous, how is it the reader's fault if he reads it wrong? You assume that I misunderstand only because I chose to be pernickety. I'm sure I missed something, and I'm sure there's plenty of people who have missed even more than me.
Now that we've got a definition of intensity = flow, I can pin down exactly where the confusion comes from. To most people, Javi's definition of intensive is far more recognisable: narrowly focussed tasks involving a lot of conscious effort. As you say:
It scares people precisely because they think you're saying what Javi was talking about. Edited by Cainntear on 13 April 2009 at 10:41am 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||||||||
| charlmartell Super Polyglot Senior Member Portugal Joined 6246 days ago 286 posts - 298 votes Speaks: French, English, German, Luxembourgish*, Spanish, Portuguese, Russian, Dutch, Italian, Latin, Ancient Greek Studies: Mandarin, Japanese | Message 45 of 87 13 April 2009 at 11:42am | IP Logged | |||||||||||
I did promise myself not to read your posts anymore, but that is proving practically impossible as you are such a prolific, difficult to avoid poster. I'd have thought that after your disastrous contribution to the 'Michel Thomas Method via software?' thread you might curb your finding fault with others a little. No fat chance, you just go on contradicting others and putting them "right". You'd better stop trying to prove yourself such a superior thinker. You're not, you're just deluding yourself. Instead of pontificating, why not spend your time more productively? You could always take your own advice and learn some Spanish, properly. Edited by charlmartell on 13 April 2009 at 11:45am 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||||||||
| Volte Tetraglot Senior Member Switzerland Joined 6441 days ago 4474 posts - 6726 votes Speaks: English*, Esperanto, German, Italian Studies: French, Finnish, Mandarin, Japanese | Message 46 of 87 13 April 2009 at 12:00pm | IP Logged | |||||||||||
All human communication using natural language is ambiguous. You can choose to glorify in that, or to make a good-faith effort to understand, and ask questions rather than assuming the issuer of the statement is an incoherent idiot. It's entirely up to you, but I find the good-faith version to be a lot more productive. If you think you're missing something, the best thing to do is ask for a clarification; with any luck, it'll also be useful to those who miss more than you.
Intensity has two major definitions in language learning. One is in contrast to 'extensive'; this is the form Javi was using. The other is "spending a large percentage of your time on something"; this is the form in terms such as 'intensive course'. Context usually makes which one is meant clear; you need to be aware of both to meaningfully participate in many discussions.
Doubtful; the idea of spending 10 hours a day scares most people even more, in my opinion. Regardless, some people get scared either way. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||||||||
| Cainntear Pentaglot Senior Member Scotland linguafrankly.blogsp Joined 6013 days ago 4399 posts - 7687 votes Speaks: Lowland Scots, English*, French, Spanish, Scottish Gaelic Studies: Catalan, Italian, German, Irish, Welsh | Message 48 of 87 13 April 2009 at 2:49pm | IP Logged | |||||||||||
Aya, there's no need to start using personal insults.
That's definitely true, but those other people are a statistical minority, and any advice that requires that level of focus is not of general use, whereas discussing techniques is far more widely applicable, as the same techniques can be used for someone who can only concentrate for 1 hour at a time as for someone who can concentrate for 12. (Unless there's a strong correlation between learning styles and length of study sessions -- I haven't heard of any research that suggests this, but then I don't really follow that side of things.) 1 person has voted this message useful |
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