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| datsunking1 Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5587 days ago 1014 posts - 1533 votes  Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: German, Russian, Dutch, French | Message 1 of 27 23 January 2010 at 5:36am | IP Logged | ||
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I honestly CANNOT settle with knowing a language to anything less than a high basic fluency, it actually bugs me when I don't understand something.
Is there a normal limit to how many languages you can study to advanced fluency? For example, Richard Simcott (I think that's how you spell it) seems very fluent in most or all of his languages. (16!!!:O) Which I find astounding, is there any hope for me knowing 6-8 to advanced fluency? I can't have a few languages be at advanced and the rest to be at basic. It bugs me :( Post your opinion! 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Kinan Diglot Senior Member Syrian Arab Republic Joined 5568 days ago 234 posts - 279 votes Speaks: Arabic (Written)*, English Studies: Russian, Spanish | Message 2 of 27 23 January 2010 at 7:42am | IP Logged | ||
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Yeah me too, is I start something, I can't let it go till i master it, and then ofcourse i keep studying it and maintaing it forever.
I think it's my scorpio sun after all :) 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Muz9 Diglot Groupie Netherlands Joined 5526 days ago 84 posts - 112 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English Studies: Spanish, Arabic (Written), Somali | Message 3 of 27 23 January 2010 at 10:13am | IP Logged | ||
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Basic fluency: You could achieve this within a year.
Advanced fluency: Takes ages! Just think of all those small nuances and rules only natives know. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Kinan Diglot Senior Member Syrian Arab Republic Joined 5568 days ago 234 posts - 279 votes Speaks: Arabic (Written)*, English Studies: Russian, Spanish | Message 4 of 27 23 January 2010 at 10:22am | IP Logged | ||
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But the advanced fluency you are talking about is not acquired even by the native themselves.
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| cordelia0507 Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5840 days ago 1473 posts - 2176 votes Speaks: Swedish* Studies: German, Russian | Message 5 of 27 23 January 2010 at 12:33pm | IP Logged | ||
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I think many of these show-off polyglots that go on TV and youtube are silly.
In many cases their language skills are in fact quite modest and a native speaker would find it frustrating to have a conversation with them. Focussing on quality, not quantity is better. Datsunking, just stick with one language until you can speak it as well as the non-native speakers here speak English. Then you know you have mastered one foreign language and can move on to the next 1-2 languages that you want to know. Somebody who can converse effortlessly in over over three languages with decent pronounciation, average native-level vocabulary and minimal grammatical errors has my respect. Particularly if he refrains from bragging/showing off and simply uses his skills for practical purposes or at work, when relevant. 10 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| datsunking1 Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5587 days ago 1014 posts - 1533 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: German, Russian, Dutch, French | Message 6 of 27 23 January 2010 at 3:39pm | IP Logged | ||
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I can agree with that cordelia :D So many languages though...so little time :D I guess I'll keep my goals modest and progress for quality instead of quantity. No point in studying a language if you do it poorly!
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| JW Hexaglot Senior Member United States youtube.com/user/egw Joined 6124 days ago 1802 posts - 2011 votes 22 sounds Speaks: English*, German, Spanish, Ancient Greek, French, Biblical Hebrew Studies: Luxembourgish, Dutch, Greek, Italian | Message 7 of 27 23 January 2010 at 4:19pm | IP Logged | ||
Otherwise known as the 80-20 rule or Pareto principle: 20% of the effort gives you 80% of the results--in this case basic fluency. Gaining that last 20%--reaching advanced fluency is time consuming and takes a lot of work. To me, advanced fluency is only worth the effort from a cost-benefit standpoint if you have a specific reason for it--i.e., you live in a country where the language is spoken, or use the language for business. Otherwise, it's not worth the effort. 3 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| datsunking1 Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5587 days ago 1014 posts - 1533 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: German, Russian, Dutch, French | Message 8 of 27 23 January 2010 at 8:52pm | IP Logged | ||
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I agree JW, I think Spanish and German are going to be my business languages, I think I'll study the rest to a basic fluency incase I need them, for instance if my company ships me to a foreign country to live and work.
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