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| Warp3 Senior Member United States forum_posts.asp?TID= Joined 5537 days ago 1419 posts - 1766 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Korean, Japanese | Message 9 of 19 31 December 2009 at 6:07pm | IP Logged | |||||
...and I've also noticed that the few Korean trot songs I've heard had their lyrics in the higher 요 (-yo) or ㅂ니다 (-mnida) speech levels which makes rhyming quite easy since every sentence has the same exact ending (assuming they are using entire sentences which many songs don't do). 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| lynxrunner Bilingual Triglot Senior Member United States crittercryptics.com Joined 5924 days ago 361 posts - 461 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish*, French Studies: Russian, Swedish, Haitian Creole | Message 10 of 19 01 January 2010 at 7:20am | IP Logged | |||||
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It is very easy to rhyme in SOV languages. In Hindi, for example, you could have sentences like: (ignore the spelling, please :[ )
mai ddaktar hai. (I am a doctor) kya deewanapan hai? (what passion is this?) mai kitaab hai. (I am a book) If you want a bunch of sentences which involve someone being something, you'll have to deal with them sounding very similar. Hindi songs that try to imitate Western songs are pretty boring since they have th esame rhyme. Old Norse poetry sounds cool, simply because it plays with things that aren't rhyme. I'd like to look into that some time. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Icaria909 Senior Member United States Joined 5593 days ago 201 posts - 346 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish | Message 11 of 19 02 January 2010 at 7:11pm | IP Logged | |||||
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I have to think languages that use the case system have to be able to be easier to make poetry, music, etc in. You can move the words of a sentance around so they rhyme, but still maintain the original meaning.
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| leniko Diglot Newbie Greece Joined 5455 days ago 12 posts - 15 votes Speaks: Greek*, EnglishB2 Studies: German, Japanese | Message 12 of 19 07 January 2010 at 12:43pm | IP Logged | |||||
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IMHO there are no languages which are superior to others in terms of prosody. Every language has its own properties which are on their users' hands to make use of effectively. On top of that, every language is a tool which contains a vast amount of properties,and it is the user who must be capable of finding and mastering ways to express oneself poetically or in another way.
No language is melodic on its own. All languages become melodic depending on their use by native/non-native speakers of a language. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Toufik18 Bilingual Tetraglot Senior Member Algeria Joined 5746 days ago 188 posts - 202 votes Speaks: Arabic (Written)*, Arabic (classical)*, French, English | Message 13 of 19 08 January 2010 at 10:30pm | IP Logged | |||||
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I'll go with Arabic. If you hear the pure classic Arabic from an Imam or anyone with a good pronounciation, you'll hear a very pleasing intonation that makes Arabic look so musical and... easy .
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| Россия Newbie United States Joined 5435 days ago 4 posts - 9 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Russian | Message 14 of 19 09 January 2010 at 10:20pm | IP Logged | |||||
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I've often wondered whether or not certain languages were better than others when it came to music, opera, poetry, etc. I am learning Russian, and it doesn't seem like this language would be a good one to write poetry in, because the present tense seems so simple (at least to me). For example, one of the books I am using to teach myself claims that if you want to talk about someone's profession, instead of saying "Vladimir is a doctor", you would write (in Cyrillic, of course), that "Vladimir - doctor", which basically means that Vladimir = doctor.
It seems as though Russian cuts out a lot of words, phrases, and tenses that would be used in poetry. Also, Russian has one present tense, while English, and many other languages, have two. "I do" and "I am doing" are written the same way in Russian. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Gusutafu Senior Member Sweden Joined 5523 days ago 655 posts - 1039 votes Speaks: Swedish* | Message 15 of 19 09 January 2010 at 10:45pm | IP Logged | |||||
This is a bit like saying that Italian isn't very good for writing operas. By the way, what is too simple about the present tense? 4 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Россия Newbie United States Joined 5435 days ago 4 posts - 9 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Russian | Message 16 of 19 09 January 2010 at 11:11pm | IP Logged | |||||
I find that the lack of articles makes it seem simplistic (not that that is a bad thing, I just think that English is better suited to poetry). 1 person has voted this message useful |
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