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| Gusutafu Senior Member Sweden Joined 5523 days ago 655 posts - 1039 votes  Speaks: Swedish* | Message 9 of 52 14 January 2010 at 1:34am | IP Logged | |||||
Well, books aren't printed with laser printers, and colour offset is more expensive than monochrome. Anyway, what would be the advantage? I think it would only look very messy, and add very little. I never feel that determining the word class is a stumblingblock. Perhaps in some fairly rare cases in Greek, and then only because I'm not very good at it. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Ari Heptaglot Senior Member Norway Joined 6584 days ago 2314 posts - 5695 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English, French, Spanish, Portuguese, Mandarin, Cantonese Studies: Czech, Latin, German | Message 10 of 52 14 January 2010 at 5:19am | IP Logged | |||||
Cantonese has at least two: "m4"—"no, not, un-" and "ng5"—five. Actually, wait. You do open your mouth for the second one. Well, it has one that's an actual word and not just an interjection.
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| prosaic Diglot Groupie China Joined 5803 days ago 44 posts - 58 votes Speaks: Mandarin*, French Studies: German, Russian, Esperanto, Latin | Message 11 of 52 14 January 2010 at 9:38am | IP Logged | |||||
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I once considered the idea of the color of printed words having grammatical meaning, too. After reading about sign languages, I realized that there are other possibilities to languages than being oral-oriented; they can be quite different in grammar, or in some like deeper structures of languages.
Written/printed languages are all recording of oral languages (or sign languages). Thus many linguistic features available to a visual presentation are untapped, I think. This is my amateurish idea. I'd like to read what you think about this. Edited by prosaic on 14 January 2010 at 9:43am 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| victor-osorio Diglot Groupie Venezuela Joined 5434 days ago 73 posts - 129 votes Speaks: Spanish*, English Studies: Italian | Message 12 of 52 16 January 2010 at 12:22am | IP Logged | |||||
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Great! Well, I'd love to see a language that has the possibility of use any sound human
can heard on their enviroment and give it a meaning just by adding some particle. For example. The particle: no -> means is an entity Th en, the particle: rep -> means is from the nature Finally, the particle: shap -> means is not alive Then if you make the sound of the wind "whooooo" and then add those particles you can make the other one figure out you're talking about the wind. It would be a 'sounds' language, with the possibility of speakers creating words based on sounds. whooonorepshap -> the wind. Crazy, isn't? Edited by victor-osorio on 16 January 2010 at 12:23am 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| victor-osorio Diglot Groupie Venezuela Joined 5434 days ago 73 posts - 129 votes Speaks: Spanish*, English Studies: Italian | Message 13 of 52 16 January 2010 at 12:26am | IP Logged | |||||
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Also, as there are no sounds produced by abstract things, there could be a metaphorical
use of certain sounds, like the sound of a kiss for the concept of love: muacknolaishap -> means both: kiss and love (no, it's an entity; lai, it's related from the human body; it's not alive) 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Gusutafu Senior Member Sweden Joined 5523 days ago 655 posts - 1039 votes Speaks: Swedish* | Message 14 of 52 16 January 2010 at 1:34am | IP Logged | |||||
I realise this sounded harsh, sorry about that. I am just curious as to what you see as the advantage in indicating word class. Speech is absent from any such marking, as far as I know, and we comprehend speech without effort. I suppose colour could be used to indicate feelings, or the tone of voice or something like that. I personally love the minimalism of the book page, all you have is a white paper with around 30 little symbols in different arrangments, and by looking at them you conjure up an entire world full of people with clothes, jobs, feelings and intrigues! 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
 Hencke Tetraglot Moderator Spain Joined 6896 days ago 2340 posts - 2444 votes Speaks: Swedish*, Finnish, EnglishC2, Spanish Studies: Mandarin Personal Language Map | Message 15 of 52 16 January 2010 at 2:42am | IP Logged | |||||
Well, I know it´s not exactly what you mean, but sign language already qualifies. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| parasitius Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 6000 days ago 220 posts - 323 votes Speaks: English*, Mandarin Studies: Cantonese, Polish, Spanish, French | Message 16 of 52 16 January 2010 at 3:06am | IP Logged | |||||
You're missing the point entirely -- and I don't mean to have something to offer language learners. Think about it -- prior to the introduction of the space and punctuation to English you might have said the same thing about adding those "useless" features as anyone with half a brain (at the time) had no significant problem reading English with no spaces and no silly dots, quotes, semi-colons, etc.. The point is that only AFTER we have become fully accustomed to them we can see in hindsight that the visceral experience is that much more pleasurable and convenient with them. If you can't imagine what colorized words would add to your reading experience, I can only ask you to spend a lot of time with it after books are available and then decide if you really want to go back. Heck -- if you want to be really old school you are welcome to run a punctuation and space stripper on any books you can find in digital form and then print them for enjoyment of "real" reading :) 1 person has voted this message useful |
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