aftonbladet Newbie Sweden Joined 5074 days ago 32 posts - 35 votes Studies: Spanish
| Message 1 of 7 17 December 2011 at 9:29pm | IP Logged |
Here is a part from youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvY9qWmmsl8
As you can hear the language is very clear.
And here is from where you can order it: http://www.amazon.es/Wire-colecci%C3%B3n-
completa-Dominic-West/dp/B0053CBF5E/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1 324153526&sr=8-1
It has both English and Spanish subtitles. I belive it will be a very good aid to learn
spanish.
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July Diglot Senior Member Spain Joined 5276 days ago 113 posts - 208 votes Speaks: English*, SpanishB2 Studies: French
| Message 2 of 7 17 December 2011 at 11:56pm | IP Logged |
You know what? I've never watched The Wire - I guess you're a fan - but nearly every
single US TV show is available on DVD with Spanish dub (except NCIS, for some reason).
But, admittedly not having seen it but having heard way too much about it, The
Wire strikes me as one of those shows where you miss a lot of the fun if you don't watch
it in the original language. The slang, the accents, the culture... Spanish people keep
telling me they're trying to watch it in English.
Try something procedural, or even better, something native.
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hypersport Senior Member United States Joined 5884 days ago 216 posts - 307 votes Studies: Spanish
| Message 3 of 7 18 December 2011 at 4:49am | IP Logged |
July, you nailed it.
The Wire is some of the best TV ever produced in my opinion. That said, I was telling a Mexican friend of mine that he would lose way too much of it if he watched it dubbed. Way too much Baltimore hood dialect, that in itself is something to behold, it's amazing.
I was watching the special features, they had translators on set for the actors so they could understand the street slang!! That's right, English slang so thick and particular to the Baltimore area that English speaking actors needed help understanding some of it. Amazing.
The series was so good, it was one of the rare ones that I chose to watch in English because I didn't want to lose anything in translation.
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aftonbladet Newbie Sweden Joined 5074 days ago 32 posts - 35 votes Studies: Spanish
| Message 4 of 7 18 December 2011 at 9:41am | IP Logged |
Best July and Hypersport,
I totaly get your point but here is what I think:
- Youre absolutely right about your mexican friend, it is a good way to learn English
for them.
- Since I was 18 I have read all my litterature in English so I can read fluently and
since I am from a "small language" most of our movies are English, or in mandarin, etc
etc, we never dub our movies and I am an avid opponent against dubbing for the same
reasons you stated. I am even against it even though I don´t know a word in the
original language.
- Having read both books, "Homicide" and "The Corner" in English, the books which the
serie is loosely based on. And both are bricksized.
- My main point. I do this to learn Spanish. I want to watch something interesting,
dubbing in this case seems to produce a more clear language that is easier for me to
understand. I have watched countless Spanish movies the latest being "Nueva Reinas" but
it is just too hard to get everything. Dubbing in this case produce the same effect
like the recomendation about books. It is better to read a nonspanish book translated
to Spanish than read for example Don Quijote, just to get a more simple and clear
language without people speaking under their breath and with too much slang!
- Looking forward too more replies!-)
PS- Look at the youtubeclip and you will understand what I mean-DS
Edited by aftonbladet on 18 December 2011 at 9:45am
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aloysius Triglot Winner TAC 2010 & 2012 Senior Member SwedenRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6243 days ago 226 posts - 291 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English, German Studies: French, Greek, Italian, Russian
| Message 5 of 7 18 December 2011 at 3:25pm | IP Logged |
I hardly ever watch dubbed movies so I wouldn't know, but while it's possible that the
dubbed language is clearer I suppose the loss of lip sync could make understanding more
difficult.
//aloysius
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hypersport Senior Member United States Joined 5884 days ago 216 posts - 307 votes Studies: Spanish
| Message 6 of 7 18 December 2011 at 5:26pm | IP Logged |
aftonbladet,
I've taken the same approach to watching some shows and movies dubbed in Spanish as you're taking. I get it, and you're right, it's another great tool to use.
This is a case where you won't get everything that the producers intended, but that's a side issue as you're using it more as a tool to learn with and at the same time you're getting the advantage of something that will captivate your interest. Like you said, much like a great book.
I see where you're coming from, enjoy the series.
On a side note, regarding English movies that are dubbed in Spanish: as our culture here in the States has changed so much to include Spanish at almost every turn, I think the dubbing has come a long way. A great series that HBO made, "In Treatment" I thought was dubbed very well and got a lot of the emotion right.
Recently I watched "A Better Life" on DVD. I thought they did a really good job with the dubbing, impressive.
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aftonbladet Newbie Sweden Joined 5074 days ago 32 posts - 35 votes Studies: Spanish
| Message 7 of 7 22 December 2011 at 8:16pm | IP Logged |
Thanks for the input.
I chosed "The Wire" just because it is supposed to be soo good and being very chosy
about
what I watch I only want to watch whats best.
"La piel que habito" is also a very good movie with clear language, 7,7 on IMDB.
Will post my experience on watching "The Wire" on the language learning log.
Thanks for the tip about "A better life"!
Would love to watch "Hospital Central" to also learn a bit of medical Spanish but that
will have to wait, after watching clips on youtube I realize it is simply too hard for
me right now.
Edited by aftonbladet on 22 December 2011 at 8:20pm
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