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| kanewai Triglot Senior Member United States justpaste.it/kanewai Joined 4879 days ago 1386 posts - 3054 votes  Speaks: English*, French, Marshallese Studies: Italian, Spanish | Message 9 of 21 28 August 2014 at 9:22pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Assimil is an excellent choice if your main goal is reading literature. However, I still
think you will need to do some basic work on listening, writing, and speaking. Most of my studying is also geared towards reading. I have always hit a hard wall when I've ignored the basics. I don't think you need to hear/speak/write at an advanced level; perhaps only to a strong A1/ weak A2 would be enough. Having a good inner voice will help immensely when you move on to literature. I second EMK's advice to do Assimil properly, at least for much of the book. 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Enrico Diglot Senior Member Russian Federation Joined 3735 days ago 162 posts - 207 votes Speaks: Russian*, English Studies: Italian, Spanish, French | Message 10 of 21 28 August 2014 at 9:49pm | IP Logged | |||||
Yes, I think you and Emk are right. Now I understand that I should at least do the Passive Wave of Assimil French to continue learning written French further. Maybe I will even like it after 50 lessons when everything will be clear. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| eyðimörk Triglot Senior Member France goo.gl/aT4FY7 Joined 4089 days ago 490 posts - 1158 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English, French Studies: Breton, Italian | Message 11 of 21 28 August 2014 at 9:49pm | IP Logged | |||||
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In addition to leaving your options open, learning basic pronunciation will help you appreciate the language and not just the content, which makes sense if you want to read literature and not just academic tomes or articles.
I'm all for focusing on what you need/want, rather than aiming to be good at everything, but if you want to reach the level where you can appreciate what you read for what it is, and not for the fact that you feel good about being educated enough to read it (no shame, I think most of us feel that way sometimes), the sounds of the language cannot be overlooked. The writing is, after all, to a large degree a representation of sounds rather than the other way around. 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Darklight1216 Diglot Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5090 days ago 411 posts - 639 votes Speaks: English*, French Studies: German | Message 12 of 21 29 August 2014 at 1:55am | IP Logged | |||||
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I guess I fall into the "have other suggestions" category.
Have you considered learning one (or more) of the other Romance languages or just furthering your English studies instead of learning written French? You said that your prefer the sound of them, and Spanish is certainly not lacking in literature. You might even want to give Latin a try since that language is largely relegated to literature anyway. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Enrico Diglot Senior Member Russian Federation Joined 3735 days ago 162 posts - 207 votes Speaks: Russian*, English Studies: Italian, Spanish, French | Message 13 of 21 29 August 2014 at 2:08am | IP Logged | |||||
Yes from other Romance languages I would like to learn at least a pair either Italian and Spanish or Italian and French or maybe Italian, Spanish and French :-). And of course I will study English further anyway because it is very useful for me. Also Romance languages are interesting for me to travel along the Mediterranean (including the French coast), Europe and Brazil. Edited by Enrico on 29 August 2014 at 2:42am 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| hrhenry Octoglot Senior Member United States languagehopper.blogs Joined 5120 days ago 1871 posts - 3642 votes Speaks: English*, SpanishC2, ItalianC2, Norwegian, Catalan, Galician, Turkish, Portuguese Studies: Polish, Indonesian, Ojibwe | Message 14 of 21 29 August 2014 at 3:38am | IP Logged | |||||
Just curious, Enrico... Your profile lists that you are in Italy now. Why aren't you concentrating on that language, if I can ask? If you are indeed in Italy, it'd be a shame to waste the opportunity. R. = 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Enrico Diglot Senior Member Russian Federation Joined 3735 days ago 162 posts - 207 votes Speaks: Russian*, English Studies: Italian, Spanish, French | Message 15 of 21 29 August 2014 at 9:49am | IP Logged | |||||
I'm not in Italy now but I study Italian and of course if I lived in any country I would indeed studied local language. I could not decide which language to choose Italian, Spanish or French and I decided to try. I listened to 3 Paul Noble courses (Italian, French, Spanish) for a week or two because they are short, explain grammar and have native speakers and chose Italian. Then I've got Italian Assimil and now go thru it. I would like to pick another one to study either simultaneously or switch from time to time. Of course as I saw in one thread here if somebody just gave me ability to know 5 languages I would choose English, Italian, Spanish, French and something completely different like Mandarin, Arabic or Japanese. But in real world I have to choose :) I would like to add French or Spanish but I'm afraid of interference a little especially with Spanish. I would like to know French but I do not like too much how it sounds. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Enrico Diglot Senior Member Russian Federation Joined 3735 days ago 162 posts - 207 votes Speaks: Russian*, English Studies: Italian, Spanish, French | Message 16 of 21 29 August 2014 at 7:28pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Also I have read somewhere on our forum that Italian and French are closer to Latin than Spanish and Portuguese. And
that Italian and French are closer grammatically to each other but Italian and Spanish are closer from sound point of view. So I thought that with Italian I will have a partial understanding of Spanish and Portuguese and it will be a good base for learning them in the future if I will want. Also I thought that with French there will be much less interference while learning simultaneously. So it becomes a question of: 1) "What is more valuable to learn Spanish or French?" ;) And 2) "Does it have sense to start from Italian if the goal is also a better partial understanding of another (Spanish/Portuguese/French/Latin) either written or spoken"?" I like sound of Italian and the country of course and would like to watch Celentano films with original audio track. Generally I would like to know them all at a B1 at least :-) But I think I will not be able to to retain them all because it seems to be hard to read and watch materials everyday on 5 languages + native and at the same time do another interesting things in life. So I think 2-3 second second languages is enough (even this is very positive I think :-) ) So English + Italian + Spanish vs English + Italian + French That's what I think about now. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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