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| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4699 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes  Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish | Message 33 of 44 18 February 2015 at 2:55am | IP Logged |
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The thing is that with dar, you really have a contradiction. With iar... it's somewhere
in between, it's more subtle. It's not used in the same context as și (for example you cannot say Maria iar Gheorge au plecat). Maria a plecat, iar Gheorghe bla bla bla. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |
| Rniks Newbie United States Joined 3696 days ago 36 posts - 47 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Romanian | Message 34 of 44 19 February 2015 at 4:40am | IP Logged |
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That's about the most helpful explanation I've gotten so far. I figure with more exposure and use I'll get a feel for
when to use it eventually. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4699 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish | Message 35 of 44 19 February 2015 at 5:24am | IP Logged |
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You will. I don't have a feel for it either and my Romanian is considered fluent. These
are little things you will actually have to evolve through writing a lot (where you can make context more obvious because in speech I use iar much less). 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Rniks Newbie United States Joined 3696 days ago 36 posts - 47 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Romanian | Message 36 of 44 21 February 2015 at 2:04am | IP Logged |
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So since italki isn't happening at the moment, I downloaded the HelloTalk app. It's set up so that you can do timed
language exchanges using voice messages or text and makes it really easy to search speakers of the language you're learning and sort them by country if you prefer. I've had it for a little while but just tried using it for the first time tonight. It feels a little awkward since I've never done an exchange before but I've already messaged back and forth to find some potential partners, and nobody's bitten my head off yet. (: I'm just using it for Spanish at the moment, so I'm not sure how many potential partners there are for those with different combinations of native and target languages. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Rniks Newbie United States Joined 3696 days ago 36 posts - 47 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Romanian | Message 37 of 44 25 March 2015 at 10:01pm | IP Logged |
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I've been really inactive with both Spanish and Romanian the past month. I'll attribute it to being driven insane as
the maid of honor in my best friend's upcoming wedding at the beginning of next month combined with the pressures of job hunting. These are of course excuses, but whatever the case, I've been pretty drained and uninterested in my hobbies across the board. I'm writing now since I'm starting to feel a surge of life and interest again and it feels really good to pick up my Romanian book for longer than 1 minute at a time before rolling over and falling asleep. The next step is to reassess my goals and means after I've spent some time reviewing and getting back into my foreign language groove. Trying my best not to insert a corny metaphor about springtime and a renewal of life and blossoming of energy... (: As a side note I watched "À Deriva" the other day with English subs and feel the need to say how much I love the sounds of Brazilian Portuguese. Maybe it's because of the setting of the movie, although I've heard lots of the language in the past, but it just sounded so dreamy and pleasant to me. I'll use it a little in the toast at the wedding since about half the attendees will be Portuguese speakers. It's possible I'd want to at some point gain some speaking ability in it as throughout my life I've always seemed to have by chance had a good number of Brazilians in my social circles. Who knows, for now just feeling a little bit 'wanderlusty' and figured where more appropriate to express it than a language forum. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Rniks Newbie United States Joined 3696 days ago 36 posts - 47 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Romanian | Message 38 of 44 27 March 2015 at 4:25am | IP Logged |
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Back to work on my dictionary for You CAN speak Romanian! I have about 50 words entered. I've so far only
included nouns in their singular and plural, with and without the definite articles in the nominative/accusative. I haven't included genitive/dative information only because I'm not yet there in my studies, although by this point the pattern is apparent. I use "dictionare.com" to decline the nouns or define them if I need to. Otherwise I search Romanian Google Images or make use of Google Translate. One of the benefits of this is it's helping me assimilate the noun endings and gender. I've decided one of my goals in Romanian will be to do a thorough review of my textbooks and the DLI. It seems I'm always reviewing sporadically and then feeling stuck on coming up with sentences or thinking in Romanian to practice. This wasn't as much of a problem when I had a more structured approach to my textbooks, so back to a routine it is. I'm giving myself until the end of April to be all caught up. If it goes faster I'll change the date, but I want to have what I've covered down cold so I can use the language with the confidence I had a few months back. I'd also like to be caught up and have the dictionary completed up to the current chapter I'm working through in You CAN speak Romanian! Sticking to studying daily this time is the overall goal. That goes for Spanish, too! 2 persons have voted this message useful | |
| Rniks Newbie United States Joined 3696 days ago 36 posts - 47 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Romanian | Message 39 of 44 01 April 2015 at 12:58am | IP Logged |
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Overall review is going well, maybe slow, but keeping up with Spanish and Romanian consistently despite being
busy. I spent an hour or so working on my Spanish listening last night by checking out a handful of Spanish Youtubers. If I'm watching a single person doing a sort of monologue, I understand most of it and am happy that speed and slang are gradually but noticeably becoming less of a barrier to my comprehension. But trying to watch a few videos where multiple people were talking to and over each other was much, much harder. But, that being said, I do notice improvement from a few months back and will just keep plugging away at it. I have a ton of native Spanish material to use, at some point I'm bound to get better at this... right? 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Rniks Newbie United States Joined 3696 days ago 36 posts - 47 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Romanian | Message 40 of 44 07 April 2015 at 3:46am | IP Logged |
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The wedding, and with it my maid of honor responsibilities, have mercifully come to an end! In my toast I ended
up using only one Portuguese word in closing (Saúde!) but throughout the day and night I was exposed to a ton of Portuguese and realized I could understand a great deal of it. The woman who spent hours styling our hair spoke only Portuguese, the mother of the groom gave a lengthy speech in it, all the groom's friends, the Brazilian bridesmaids, and even those who weren't native Brazilians were chatting and yelling across the hall in it all night. It was a cool experience being able to get so much of a language I haven't put any real active effort into. The wedding was held in a hall where I used to work as a waitress, so I got to use my Spanish, too, when some of the Spanish speaking bartenders and waiters recognized me and asked how Spain went, because I had left that job to study abroad there. All in all, a neat experience but an immense relief that it's over and done with. My review slowed down the past few days because of all the wedding prep and festivities, but I'm back on track again. To bone up on colloquial (from Spain) Spanish, I've been reading a lot of ¡Tenía que decirlo! and ¡Asco de vida! They're two sister websites where Spaniards generally write anonymous confessions, and people can respond with comments. It's been a great help because before this I didn't know where to look besides Youtube comments to find more natural, slangy language in written form. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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