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| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4699 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes  Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish | Message 17 of 22 11 June 2015 at 7:55am | IP Logged |
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It may be slightly more front or back but I don't notice a big difference at all. At most
one is a and the other is ɑ, but where I come from I don't really notice a big difference between the two. It certainly is not æ. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| dhoeffer Pentaglot Newbie Netherlands enoent.org Joined 3465 days ago 14 posts - 23 votes Speaks: Italian, German*, English, Spanish, Dutch | Message 18 of 22 11 June 2015 at 8:18am | IP Logged |
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For me the difference is huge and exactly the kind of thing I don't want to get
wrong. If a Dutchman says Dutch "lang", it's immediately clear that he's not saying German "lang", and that's what makes you recognizable as a foreign speaker. I'm more concerned about that then any grammar or expression level stuff; for me, not sounding German is a prerequisite for everything else, I really want to get past that. English doesn't have æ in father, it has ɑ:. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4699 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish | Message 19 of 22 11 June 2015 at 8:22am | IP Logged |
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Oh in father yes, I meant in "land".
The problem is that in the Netherlands and Belgium you'll hear about 50 variants for all the a's depending on the dialect. But it's best to sort of make the sound more back in Dutch yeah. Edited by tarvos on 11 June 2015 at 8:24am 2 persons have voted this message useful | |
| dhoeffer Pentaglot Newbie Netherlands enoent.org Joined 3465 days ago 14 posts - 23 votes Speaks: Italian, German*, English, Spanish, Dutch | Message 20 of 22 11 June 2015 at 8:38am | IP Logged |
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Oh, I see, sorry. Yes, I love the variation - I'm very fond of the Amsterdam long a,
the way the front man of the Osdorp Posse does it for example (although I'm aiming for ABN myself). 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4699 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish | Message 21 of 22 11 June 2015 at 9:11am | IP Logged |
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Yeah in that case the a is slightly more back. But in general you should start from a
German pronunciation. Dutch rarely pronounces things the same way as English. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| dhoeffer Pentaglot Newbie Netherlands enoent.org Joined 3465 days ago 14 posts - 23 votes Speaks: Italian, German*, English, Spanish, Dutch | Message 22 of 22 28 June 2015 at 12:36pm | IP Logged |
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Deze week heb ik meer aan passive vaardigheden gewerkt. Ik heb Readlang ontdekt, wat een
geweldig werktuig! Ik heb een epub van Geert Mak ("Gedoemd tot kwetsbaarheid") geüpload en lees het nu; Readlang vertelt me dat het op C2 niveau is, maar in die niveaus geloof ik echt niet, zeker niet als het om het lezen gaat. Juist zeldzame worden zijn vaak uit het Latijn of uit andere talen overgenomen, dus als je een iets betere onderwijs hebt genoten zijn ze makkelijker dan alledaagse taal. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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