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| DaraghM Diglot Senior Member Ireland Joined 6142 days ago 1947 posts - 2923 votes  Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: French, Russian, Hungarian | Message 1 of 11 04 April 2014 at 12:28pm | IP Logged |
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Does anyone ever get the temptation to pause all their other languages and take one language to a C2 proficiency ? I’m feeling this pull with Spanish. I’m blaming it on my recent purchase of Plan Curricular del Instituto Cervantes. This reference work is an extremely detailed look at all the grammar, vocabulary and cultural awareness needed from A1 to C2. Edited by DaraghM on 04 April 2014 at 1:28pm 8 persons have voted this message useful | |
| luke Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 7196 days ago 3133 posts - 4351 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Esperanto, French | Message 2 of 11 04 April 2014 at 1:00pm | IP Logged |
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It sounds like it could be a ftuitful project. Other than the new book, are there other things pushing you to
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| DaraghM Diglot Senior Member Ireland Joined 6142 days ago 1947 posts - 2923 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: French, Russian, Hungarian | Message 3 of 11 04 April 2014 at 1:41pm | IP Logged |
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I’ve started developing a deeper fascination in both Spanish and French with their literary canon and literary theory. While I’m happy to have good conversational Spanish and reasonable French, I’ve developed an interest in the richer parts of Spanish and French culture. It started when I started reading the cultural awareness sections of the C1-C2 book. I’d love to find an equivalent guide to French.
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| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6588 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 4 of 11 04 April 2014 at 7:17pm | IP Logged |
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It's not an either/or thing. It's more about not stopping to learn Spanish than stopping to learn other languages. Reaching C2 is not fast no matter how much time you dedicate to the language. On a side note I'm sceptical of C2 coursebooks and classes. I think it's a bit artificial and marketing-driven; realistically at least the active grammar study should end at B2/C1. These levels already require a great command of the grammar, and any formal study should focus on each learner's individual weaknesses, on improving the accuracy. Grammar is not a good indicator of one's CEFR level, though it's useful for determining which class or which exam to take.
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| Jalds Newbie United States Joined 4949 days ago 23 posts - 31 votes Speaks: Spanish | Message 5 of 11 05 April 2014 at 12:57am | IP Logged |
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I made a similar decision years ago. Despite an interest in learning Portuguese, I
decided to stick with Spanish as there is so much I want to do with the language in terms of writing and community involvement in my target country. I'm a little past 4 years of self study, and while I can write and tell stories comfortably, but I still struggle with the culture gaps and I know I'm not at the C2 level. I guess what I'm saying is, C2 is a long journey. If it is truly necessary for what you want to do, I would focus on one language. Otherwise, as Serpent mentioned, it's not an either or situation, but progress in one language "may" slow progress in the other. That's the potential risk you have to take. 3 persons have voted this message useful | |
 Iversen Super Polyglot Moderator Denmark berejst.dk Joined 6694 days ago 9078 posts - 16473 votes Speaks: Danish*, French, English, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Swedish, Esperanto, Romanian, Catalan Studies: Afrikaans, Greek, Norwegian, Russian, Serbian, Icelandic, Latin, Irish, Lowland Scots, Indonesian, Polish, Croatian Personal Language Map | Message 6 of 11 05 April 2014 at 2:05pm | IP Logged |
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I stick to Pareto's law, which (with WIkipedia's formulation) says that "for many events, roughly 80% of the effects come from 20% of the causes". Or in other words: it isn't worth the effort to aim for 100%. If a higher level comes by itself because you already spend a lot of time with a language then it's fine, but I will always go for 5 x 20% which yields 5 x 80%, instead of sacrificing four languages to become invisible to native speakers in one.
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| Elanguest Newbie Malta elanguest.com Joined 3857 days ago 19 posts - 26 votes Speaks: English* | Message 7 of 11 30 April 2014 at 10:23am | IP Logged |
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It could look good on a CV. People have a lot of different opinions about exams and official levels. I think it really
depends on what you want to use the language for and also on what kind of learner you are. There's no harm in trying, as long as you know what you're getting yourself into and are willing to invest in the time commitment. It might be a good idea to schedule small reviews of your current languages just so that you keep them active. :) 2 persons have voted this message useful | |
| Lianne Senior Member Canada thetoweringpile.blog Joined 5106 days ago 284 posts - 410 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Esperanto, Toki Pona, German, French | Message 8 of 11 25 May 2014 at 5:06am | IP Logged |
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Many times, I've tried to focus on one language, and then promptly been distracted by another. :) But, this year, I've decided to focus on French to fluency. I don't know what changed, but suddenly the prospect of all the bilingual-only jobs that are out there, plus the ability to raise my future child bilingually, plus just being able to be more fully Canadian in a sort of vague cultural way, seems more important than all the languages I learn for fun.
I figure I've got a fair few decades of language learning time ahead of me (I'm only 26). I can afford to spend at least the next few years focusing on French. I'm expecting to graduate from my current college program (to become a librarian) in about 3 years. I'm hoping that gives me enough time to become sufficiently bilingual that French schools would consider hiring me. We'll see! 1 person has voted this message useful |
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