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| baokieu Newbie Vietnam LangReviews.com Joined 4632 days ago 18 posts - 19 votes Speaks: Vietnamese* Studies: EnglishC2 | Message 1 of 10 31 May 2014 at 11:12am | IP Logged | ||
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Vietnamese is my first language. English is my second language (level B2, I think) I can read quite well.
If I have time in the future, I will learn one of these three: French, Mandarin, or Japanese. SHOULD I LEARN THEM THROUGH MY VIETNAMESE OR THROUGH English? (self-study) I love Assimil, Michel Thomas and Pimsleur method, but they are all in English. So should I use them? Edited by baokieu on 31 May 2014 at 11:16am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| eyðimörk Triglot Senior Member France goo.gl/aT4FY7 Joined 4090 days ago 490 posts - 1158 votes  Speaks: Swedish*, English, French Studies: Breton, Italian | Message 2 of 10 31 May 2014 at 11:29am | IP Logged | ||
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If you're at level B2 you should be able to learn them through English, if you want to. I did Assimil's "Le Breton" through French, and I wasn't higher than B2.
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| Cavesa Triglot Senior Member Czech Republic Joined 5000 days ago 3277 posts - 6779 votes Speaks: Czech*, FrenchC2, EnglishC1 Studies: Spanish, German, Italian | Message 3 of 10 31 May 2014 at 11:31am | IP Logged | ||
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Sure. One of the best things about knowing another language is the freedom of choice.
Much larger pool of books, movies and so on. Including language learning sources. At your level, you shouldn't have much trouble using English based sources. However, some of the Vietnamese ones might have added benefits (focus on specific troubles or use of common features with the target language). And remember that sometimes, the English based source isn't the best one on the market (even if just not the best one for you) and the popularity is due to the amount of English native learners or lack of other resources. Look at what is available either with Vietnamese or English base and make your choice. I wish you a lot of success with learning. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Fuenf_Katzen Diglot Senior Member United States notjustajd.wordpress Joined 4360 days ago 337 posts - 476 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Polish, Ukrainian, Afrikaans | Message 4 of 10 31 May 2014 at 11:18pm | IP Logged | ||
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At B2 you should be fine to learn a language through English. I don't know what the market is as far as materials in Vietnamese, but you can look and go from there. The one advantage about using Vietnamese materials though, is that it will probably be more focuses towards specific problems you as a native Vietnamese speaker might have. Good luck!
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| Chung Diglot Senior Member Joined 7147 days ago 4228 posts - 8259 votes 20 sounds Speaks: English*, French Studies: Polish, Slovak, Uzbek, Turkish, Korean, Finnish | Message 5 of 10 01 June 2014 at 5:32pm | IP Logged | ||
If you feel comfortable using such material, then why not? Since those languages that you want to learn have high profiles, I strongly suspect that you could fall back on at least a few solid sources in Vietnamese if for whatever reason you want a second opinion on something in the material published in English. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Zireael Triglot Senior Member Poland Joined 4642 days ago 518 posts - 636 votes Speaks: Polish*, EnglishB2, Spanish Studies: German, Sign Language, Tok Pisin, Arabic (Yemeni), Old English | Message 6 of 10 01 June 2014 at 5:45pm | IP Logged | ||
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My Arabic tutor knew 0 Polish, if you discount basic pleasantries and the diminutive from Katarzyna, so we used English in our lessons and English-language materials.
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| Bao Diglot Senior Member Germany tinyurl.com/pe4kqe5 Joined 5757 days ago 2256 posts - 4046 votes Speaks: German*, English Studies: French, Spanish, Japanese, Mandarin | Message 7 of 10 01 June 2014 at 9:27pm | IP Logged | ||
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I personally would - well, I do - use ressources in both my native language and English. I don't know what kind of material is available in Vietnamese, of course.
I usually use a dictionary and a grammar with German as a base language, and textbooks and other learning ressources as they come. My reasoning is that some things are easier for me as a native German speaker and others are harder, and when I'm looking for definitions and rules, I want to use German for it. But when it comes to lesson texts and translations, I'm fine using English. I think you probably would fare well using an introduction to Mandarin tones with Vietnamese as a base language, and if there is a ressource that teaches you vocabulary in Chinese languages or Japanese based on Sino-Vietnamese, it's probably helpful to use it, just like looking at English vocabulary of French or other Romance origin can help with French vocabulary. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| day1 Groupie Latvia Joined 3883 days ago 93 posts - 158 votes Speaks: English | Message 8 of 10 02 June 2014 at 6:20pm | IP Logged | ||
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A lot of textbooks for learning Chinese for Vietnamese speakers seem to be from Sinolingua, the same "popular" titles that they themselves have translated into all imaginable languages (Ukrainian, Arabic, Vietnamese, etc.) I have seen a few of the books they have translated into Russian (dangdai zhongwen, for example, also conversational Chinese 301), and in enough places the translations are ridiculous, funny at best, misleading at their worst. So, you do not gain much from choosing a book that teaches through your native language, because these Sinolingua books do not take speaker's own language into account really.
The best thing to do is to try and see how comfortable you feel with these English language textbooks. If you feel good, continue, if not - you'll see it soon enough and will be able to change book, thus not wasting much time. Good luck! 1 person has voted this message useful |
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