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| Mrs. Dalloway Triglot Groupie Italy Joined 4779 days ago 70 posts - 95 votes  Speaks: Italian*, EnglishC2, Russian Studies: GermanA2, French, Danish | Message 1 of 17 01 May 2014 at 3:11pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Welcome, everyone, to my world of laziness and lucky achievements.
My name is Giulia, I'm currently 20 years old and I study linguistics and social anthropology at a UK university. Native Italian speaker, in love with all languages indiscriminately, although my focus so far has been on Indoeuropean ones. I will outline my story with the languages that I know as secondary ones: Genoese dialect of Ligurian and Campidanese Sardinian - I grew up listening to my grandparents speaking them all the time and I can understand quite a lot of what is said in conversation, but I'm hopeless at communicating, something that I'm trying to work on. English - the 'national' language I've known the longest. I started learning it very casually, when my relatives bought me a series of Disney VHS tapes called Magic English. It was love from the first moment. I used to make up words that 'sounded' English and look them up in the dictionary to see if they actually existed (learning about phonotactic restraints without even knowing!) - I then started studying it in school when I was about 8 years old and I was always a bit more advanced than my classmates. That went on until I finished high school and then moved to the UK, not the best at English anymore! I have no idea where C1 ends and C2 begins, but I've been mistaken for a native (of American English) a few times, so I'd say I'm somewhere there? French - I started studying French when I was about 11/12, in middle school, and three more years in high school. To me French is the language of books I can read without too many problems and the language in which I can "wing it". I would say I'm somewhere around a B1 level. German - studied for 5 years in high school, three of which were devoted to literature. Needless to say, didn't get much from it, especially because my teacher could not make my classmates shut up. I peek shyly into the room where all the B1s sit. Russian - I studied one year abroad in a Russian city, in the innerland. I left knowing exactly three words and came back to get a B1 certificate (my appendix, I then found out, was bursting while I was taking the exam). I haven't kept it up as well as I wanted, but I'm working to expand my vocabulary and master the trickier bits of grammar (perfective and imperfective, for example). Danish - took it as an outside course during my first year of uni (which is about to end). I had a wonderful lecturer and my class was quite small, which meant more focus on each individual. I've had to completely abandon German for this, because I was getting incredibly confused between the two. I hope I'll manage to study it next year as well, but all depends on whether I have enough credits. From previous experiences, Danes seem the nicest people ever, I swear. Which is a good reason to keep learning a language, I guess! As I said in the title, I'm a *very* lazy person. I could probably achieve much more than what I've done so far, if I put more effort into it, but meeehhh. I'm dabbling in Spanish and Turkish and might take up Hebrew sometime soon if my girlfriend decides to. I'll try to keep this log as updated as possible! 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Crush Tetraglot Senior Member ChinaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5675 days ago 1622 posts - 2299 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, Mandarin, Esperanto Studies: Basque | Message 2 of 17 01 May 2014 at 11:21pm | IP Logged | |||||
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I would be really interested in any suggestions you have for Sardinian learning materials for any of the major dialects (namely Campidanese or Logudorese but i'm not picky!), and any suggestions for media/books/anything you might know about. I've started gathering a small collection of resources after getting interested in it when i read about it in the EuroComRom Seven Sieves book. It's a really beautiful and interesting language :)
I would also try to encourage you to pick up Spanish as i think you'd pick it up quite easily, but i see you've already got a pretty full plate on your hands. Anyway, good luck! 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
 Iversen Super Polyglot Moderator Denmark berejst.dk Joined 6513 days ago 9078 posts - 16473 votes Speaks: Danish*, French, English, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Swedish, Esperanto, Romanian, Catalan Studies: Afrikaans, Greek, Norwegian, Russian, Serbian, Icelandic, Latin, Irish, Lowland Scots, Indonesian, Polish, Croatian Personal Language Map | Message 3 of 17 02 May 2014 at 10:56am | IP Logged | |||||
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This doesn't sound like the agenda for an incredibly lazy person - at least you must be a very active lazy person. I have of course noticed the passage about Danish, and I hope you will keep a lifeline back to the language by reading a few snippets here and there or watching videos or whatever you can find in our language in your country.
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| fabriciocarraro Hexaglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member Brazil russoparabrasileirosRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4525 days ago 989 posts - 1454 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, EnglishB2, Italian, Spanish, Russian, French Studies: Dutch, German, Japanese | Message 4 of 17 02 May 2014 at 7:07pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Ciao Giulia! Benvenuta al forum! =)
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| daristani Senior Member United States Joined 6954 days ago 752 posts - 1661 votes Studies: Uzbek | Message 5 of 17 02 May 2014 at 9:22pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Crush, a short textbook of Sardinian, with explanations in German and Italian, can be downloaded for free here: http://casteddu.com/cstd/sardo.htm
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| Crush Tetraglot Senior Member ChinaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5675 days ago 1622 posts - 2299 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, Mandarin, Esperanto Studies: Basque | Message 6 of 17 02 May 2014 at 9:54pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Thanks daristani, i've come across a few resources for it (including that textbook, which actually seems pretty nice and comparatively recent, being published in 1985):
http://www.acalisa.org/SDT.pdf (about standardizing the orthography) http://www.sardegnacultura.it/documenti/7_25_20060427093224. pdf (more "normalizations", in Italian) http://www.sardegnacultura.it/linguasarda/ilsardo/multimedia .html (stories and grammar, aimed at children but with lots of audio and animations and things.) http://it.wikibooks.org/wiki/Sardo (italian) http://www.ditzionariu.org/home.asp?lang=sar (dictionary) http://www.comitau.org/Mangaras/gramatiga/gramatiga_sarda.pd f (small grammar in Italian) http://www.casteddu.com/sardo.pdf (a small grammar in German and Italian, the course that daristani mentioned) There's also this, Iscola de Sardu, but none of the videos seem to work for me: http://www.telesassari.tv/frontend/telesassari/archivio_sche daprg.aspx?id=315 And some texts and things available here: http://www.lingrom.fu-berlin.de/sardu/ Some books (which you can find online if you know where to look): "Sardinian Syntax" by Michael Allan Jones "Grammatica Sardo Campidanese" by Giuseppino Tuveri "La lingua sarda" by Wagner Max Leopold I don't know if there are more modern textbooks available or any other language courses. I also don't know anything about Sardinian movies, TV shows, radio, literature, etc. 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Mrs. Dalloway Triglot Groupie Italy Joined 4779 days ago 70 posts - 95 votes Speaks: Italian*, EnglishC2, Russian Studies: GermanA2, French, Danish | Message 7 of 17 02 May 2014 at 11:04pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Thank you, Crush and daristani!
Many of those resources I knew already, and here's my small contribution http://academiadesusardu.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/arregul as.pdf (a grammar of Campidanese) https://www.youtube.com/user/editoriasarda/videos?view=0 (interviews in sardinian to book authors) http://www.sardegnacultura.it/j/v/290?s=7&v=9&c=2479&c1=2801 &o=1&bt=1&qp=2&na=1&n=1000 (some literature - there's even a translation of heart of darkness by conrad!) As far as radio and TV go, I'm going to have to ask my grandparents this summer. All I remember is that my grandpa used to watch a program on the channel Videolina that was entirely in Sardinian, but that's about it, I'm afraid. I'll keep you posted!
I definitely will start working on it soon! I'm mostly memorising vocabulary for now, but this summer a friend of mine is coming back from Argentina and I will probably practise speaking with her.
Jeg er ikke virkelig doven, men sommetider tror jeg, at jeg kunne gøre meget mere med min tid. Jeg kan også godt lide norsk og svensk, og jeg ville gerne lære dem (selvom jeg kan forstå noget), men før det skal jeg blive meget godt til dansk. Jeg tror, det er behageligt, at tale uden at være forvirret! Tak for alt :) 3 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| daristani Senior Member United States Joined 6954 days ago 752 posts - 1661 votes Studies: Uzbek | Message 8 of 17 03 May 2014 at 12:13am | IP Logged | |||||
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There's also another somewhat more recent textbook in German:
Guido Mensching: Einfuehrung in die sardische Sprache, originally published by the Romanistischer Verlag in Bonn in 1992. 10 lessons, 135 pages; here's the page from the publisher http://www.rv-hillen.de/brs.htm 2 persons have voted this message useful |
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