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Bao
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 Message 9 of 61
15 July 2012 at 9:02pm | IP Logged 
It depends on the situation. For example, if I had the feeling the other person genuinely didn't care about my language and culture, I would pretty soon wonder why s/he was interested in me at all. If however I could see that my lover does have some interest but feels inhibited I could definitely understand that and I'd try to tone down my sometimes alienating nerdiness and perfectionism and be more encouraging.
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atama warui
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 Message 10 of 61
15 July 2012 at 9:33pm | IP Logged 
This thread baffles me. Don't you love your partner? What difference does it make?
I think this is a pretty egoistic point of view.

I'd help her learn German if she wanted, but if not, that'd be okay, too. I'd be with her for what she is, not for which languages she speaks.

Edited by atama warui on 15 July 2012 at 9:34pm

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Bao
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 Message 11 of 61
15 July 2012 at 10:28pm | IP Logged 
atama warui wrote:
This thread baffles me. Don't you love your partner? What difference does it make?
I think this is a pretty egoistic point of view.

I'd help her learn German if she wanted, but if not, that'd be okay, too. I'd be with her for what she is, not for which languages she speaks.

Love, after the initial infatuation, is something both partners have to work for. And to me, that includes trying to understand the cultural background of the partner, to a certain degree.
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hrhenry
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 Message 12 of 61
15 July 2012 at 10:55pm | IP Logged 
Bao wrote:

Love, after the initial infatuation, is something both partners have to work for. And to
me, that includes trying to understand the cultural background of the partner, to a
certain degree.

True, but we're also a much more connected global society now than we've ever been. It's
much harder to ignore other cultures, in general, and if the other culture is American,
it's near impossible.

R.
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frenkeld
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 Message 13 of 61
15 July 2012 at 10:59pm | IP Logged 
This may depend on where the two live. If a speaker of language A is living with a speaker of language B in country A, speaker B would learn language A by default. The issue then would be whether speaker A would also choose to learn language B. Well, some speakers of B would get exercised over speaker A not learning their language, some wouldn't. I myself am generally a believer that people shouldn't get into a committed relationship to learn all they can about their mutual cultures, but to be together. Now, of course, if speaker B has relatives that don't speak language A, it would be nice for speaker A to learn language B for family visits, but perhaps they can all just speak English (or some other common language) during those visits? :)

Another possibility is when a speaker of language A and a speaker of language B live in country C. This happens to be my own case, I am a native speaker of Russian while my wife's native languages are Hindi and Punjabi, although her English skills are near-native. She is busy and is generally not into languages, so she will never learn Russian, while I am into languages and have Hindi on my target list, but haven't really done much about it yet. We've been married for 23 years, so the English-only household linguistic arrangement seems to work for us.


Edited by frenkeld on 21 July 2012 at 11:37pm

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 Message 14 of 61
15 July 2012 at 11:04pm | IP Logged 
It wouldn't bother me one bit. The fact that I found a partner that I truly love who doesn't speak English would make the learning of that language worth every minute I spent on it and could careless if they bothered to learn English or not.
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Solfrid Cristin
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 Message 15 of 61
15 July 2012 at 11:08pm | IP Logged 
Once upon a time my greatest wish was to move to Spain and marry a Spaniard. I cannot imagine that I would have found a Spaniard willing to learn Norwegian in a million years. I do not belive that this would have made me love him less.

Having said that, I always found it baffling how people could marry someone about who they did not have even the most rudimentary knowledge.

A Norwegian girl I once knew married a guy from India, and I found more out about his cultural background in 30 minutes' conversation than she knew after 6 months of marriage. She had no idea what his native language was or which religion he had, and their cultural levels were light years apart. He was a very educated man, and she was practically an idiot. I lost contact with her shortly after, but I cannot belive that they were married more than the compulsary three years.
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Cavesa
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 Message 16 of 61
15 July 2012 at 11:30pm | IP Logged 
frenkeld wrote:
Now, of course, if the speaker B has relatives that don't speak
language A, it would be nice for the speaker A to learn language B for family visits,
but perhaps they can all just speak English (or some other regional lingua
franca) during those visits? :)


You assume everyone speaks English or another large language. Which is not the case in
many families. (Or for exemple try to explain to monolingual French family that you
don't consider French to be enough "lingua franca" :-D). It may be egoistic but I'd
feel strange if there was no way of communication between my family and my beloved one
(apart from my translations) because I might want the beloved one to become a part of
the family in future. And for this, the basics of the language would surely suffice
because both parties would try their best to communicate. And the needed topics could
be learnt on the go :-)

And even though it wouldn't be an obstacle for the two of us speaking, I would take it
as a sign that my partner doesn't consider my country to be an option for our future
life at all. (Currently, I have the opposite "trouble", my czech boyfriend isn't too
open to the idea of us living somewhere else :-D but it is slowly changing)

The truth is that you can throw it all away because you are madly in love. But as
someone already wisely wrote here, you are madly in love just in the beginnings, after
that there is a lot of work :-)

P.S. at this mixed-couple topic, I always remember not only the few mixed pairs I know
but as well one documentary film about a Czech man and a Chinese woman who have been
married for years (living here) and now they are both as good in the language of the
other one that he even asks in Chinese and she answers in Czech. I know this is a level
not necessary or needed for vast majority of couples, but for me, it is such a
beautiful symbol of understanding each other, valuing each other so much and having
spent countless hours speaking and obviously enjoying it even after years.


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