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1e4e6
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 Message 401 of 706
23 January 2014 at 6:40am | IP Logged 
Things like this always happen when one is a native Anglophone...
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kujichagulia
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 Message 402 of 706
23 January 2014 at 6:43am | IP Logged 
1e4e6 wrote:
Things like this always happen when one is a native Anglophone...
I suppose so. Being a native Anglophone is a blessing and a curse.

I'm not surprised or shocked about what happened, but I am a bit disappointed.
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1e4e6
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 Message 403 of 706
23 January 2014 at 6:52am | IP Logged 
This may sound silly, but I pretend that I am not a native Anglophone by saying that I am
from a non-Anglophone country and pretend that my English is restricted to only knowledge
of basic phrases if I want conversation in another language. It helps that my name is not
Anglophone, so in that manner I can pretend better. I am not sure if you would want to
try that, but it works quite often. I am not sure about how often people switch to
English in Japan or Brasil, but in Portugal some do it and some do not. They definitely
switch less than in Norway, the Netherlands, or Belgium for example though.
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kujichagulia
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 Message 404 of 706
23 January 2014 at 7:18am | IP Logged 
1e4e6 wrote:
This may sound silly, but I pretend that I am not a native Anglophone by saying that I am
from a non-Anglophone country and pretend that my English is restricted to only knowledge
of basic phrases if I want conversation in another language. It helps that my name is not
Anglophone, so in that manner I can pretend better. I am not sure if you would want to
try that, but it works quite often. I am not sure about how often people switch to
English in Japan or Brasil, but in Portugal some do it and some do not. They definitely
switch less than in Norway, the Netherlands, or Belgium for example though.

In Japan, if you are not Asian, you will be spoken to in English - sometimes even if the person knows you are not from an Anglophone country. That said, I have tried that technique with some results. It takes a while before the other person stops speaking English to you, and even then they talk to you in "baby Japanese."

Of course, I couldn't use that technique at my school. My teaching position requires a native English speaker, so everyone knows I speak English, and it's my job to speak and teach English.
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 Message 405 of 706
23 January 2014 at 1:11pm | IP Logged 
Yeah I remember a kid from Ireland saying that he pretended not to understand his host family when they
spoke English to him and made them use French. I kinda thought that only worked with other languages but
apparently not. I don't know how well that works with people who have more English speaking practice
though. I for example am pretty confident when I say something that it's understandable obviously but that
wasn't always the case.
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 Message 406 of 706
23 January 2014 at 9:36pm | IP Logged 
Better luck next time, kuji. I'm sure there will be many other opportunities, it will
help when the focus will entirely be speaking in Portuguese.

Do you work on any active translation drills (i.e. into target language)? I've started to
realize they are important for me to activate my skills, even after months focusing only
on input. I tend to do them at an A1->A2 level but when I get to an intermediate level I
forget about them.
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 Message 407 of 706
23 January 2014 at 10:06pm | IP Logged 
Brazilians are friendly people, but there are jerks everywhere who are the exceptions to any rule. Sorry, to hear about this, kuji :(. There will be other opportunities soon, I am certain. Your conversation practice will not have been in vain. Speaking of which, I think it's time that you start to make some of those opportunities happen for yourself. Hop on Orkut and start chatting with Brazilians online and/or maybe do a free language exchange once every two weeks. You are now at the stage where I jumped into DLI- Volume 4. The course, drills and dialogs get more interesting and more valuable from here on out. Hang in there! You're making great progress. Segue, segue, segue...



Edited by iguanamon on 23 January 2014 at 10:07pm

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 Message 408 of 706
23 January 2014 at 10:16pm | IP Logged 
FB is much more popular nowadays, iguanamon. No one from my circles use orkut anymore.
Anyway, you can find Brazilians anywhere, even at VK, if you want to keep it low profile.


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