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| FireViN Diglot Senior Member Brazil missaoitaliano.wordpRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5221 days ago 196 posts - 292 votes  Speaks: Portuguese*, EnglishC2 Studies: Italian | Message 465 of 902 16 December 2012 at 12:15am | IP Logged | ||||||||
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Oh crap, now I REALLY want to join the Turkish team, but I'm not sure I can commit to that ):
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| Chung Diglot Senior Member Joined 7148 days ago 4228 posts - 8259 votes 20 sounds Speaks: English*, French Studies: Polish, Slovak, Uzbek, Turkish, Korean, Finnish | Message 466 of 902 16 December 2012 at 2:06am | IP Logged | ||||||||
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There's plenty of room. As far as committment goes, I hold the reins of leadership loosely and would much rather study languages than prod members. The only requirement is that you study Turkish (or a Turkic language ;-)) but whether you do that every day, every Friday after lunch, every two weeks, is not my business.
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| mrwarper Diglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member Spain forum_posts.asp?TID=Registered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5218 days ago 1493 posts - 2500 votes Speaks: Spanish*, EnglishC2 Studies: German, Russian, Japanese | Message 467 of 902 16 December 2012 at 5:30am | IP Logged | ||||||||
Well noted, guys. @BrunUgle, I'm ashamed to say that just before getting back to this thread I scrapped a half-written message that I was to post at your log -- I was praising you so much as level-headed and sensible that it felt like sucking up to you :) All what you three have said makes perfect sense so I'll try to explain my intended take on this without repeating too much stuff. First, the whole idea behind this was to use the social part of the forum (as a loner, I tend to suck at social aspects of things) to help language learning (something I've sucked at as well for other reasons), but on second thought I think this will tie the both 'opposite' approaches so many people seem to take on language learning ('learn languages to interact with people' and 'interact with people to learn languages'), making both approaches intertwine and --hopefully-- reinforce each other for everyone involved (and maybe even make some people veer towards less polarized stands). In perhaps more simple words: 'practice being social' -> 'get better at it and do it more' -> 'end up practicing language(s)' -> 'get better at it and do it more', which in turn is again that 'social' thing I started with. As with every relationship, I think most of it should be left up to both parties involved alone, but as a general rule of thumb about when to address your godparents and godchildren, I'd give one I strive to apply all the time: be as helpful as you can, demand as little help as you can, and work up from there ('negotiate communication', in pedagogical neospeak). Regarding where and how to do it, well, try to answer one simple (common sense?) question: to whom is <whatever> relevant*? If it's just you and your godparent/child, keep it private. If you think it might be beneficial for whatever readers you have, post it in your log. If you feel all team members and followers should know about it, that's what team logs should be for. If it may be relevant for anyone out there and you don't necessarily need/expect your godchild/parent to be a part of that discussion in particular, leave them alone and post in a regular subforum thread just like God intended ;) *By 'relevant' I mean one or more of the following: interesting, useful, funny... Just remember that any when/how/wheres are prone to mistakes and errors from both sides, and be ready to cope with that in positive ways. I think it is quite reasonable to start assuming that everyone here (unlike in real life) starts out in good faith so, if you do, we all should end up with more and better friends. OK, just a tiny flaky bit remaining: No matter how hard I may want to help people in the Romance team help with their French, I cannot do it, for my French fringes the non-existent. Teams studying multiple languages probably need more than one godparent. Also, I don't think godparents need to be restricted to helping one team if there's more than one studying their language, nor be restricted to one language if they're good enough in more. And a couple of more 'personal' details: -God knows I am no angel, but neither do I have something against being called one. Godfather sounds cool too, but for some reason being called a 'godmother' kind of bothers me. Brun, would you mind fixing that here? Thank you... -I can manage American Spanish as well, unless we discuss a very specific thing related to non-Mexican and non-Argentinian varieties. Of course that doesn't mean I want to take precedence over other native speakers' -- the less you leave up to me, the more I can do somewhere else :) Edited by mrwarper on 16 December 2012 at 5:52am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Flargus Diglot Newbie United States Joined 4380 days ago 4 posts - 4 votes Speaks: Lithuanian, English* Studies: German, Mandarin | Message 468 of 902 16 December 2012 at 8:49am | IP Logged | ||||||||
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Hm, Hopefully I'm doing this right, but I'd like to join Team 鶴. So if I'm in the wrong spot, just show me what to
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| Brun Ugle Diglot Senior Member Norway brunugle.wordpress.c Joined 6612 days ago 1292 posts - 1766 votes Speaks: English*, NorwegianC1 Studies: Japanese, Esperanto, Spanish, Finnish | Message 469 of 902 16 December 2012 at 9:14am | IP Logged | ||||||||
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BloodyChinese: Added to Asian team Flargus: Added to Asian team Yes, you are in the right spot to sign-up. Now you can go to the Asian team thread and introduce yourself there. mrwarper: I was rather shocked myself to find that I’d called you a godmother. I had to read what you wrote twice and I thought, “Surely I didn’t do that?!” But then I looked, and there it was, “godmother.” I’ve changed it to godfather. But I was absolutely positive that that was what I wrote in the first place. There must have been some elves here in the middle of the night changing it while I was sleeping. I haven’t checked my log yet, but thank you for your half-written scrapped message. I’m sure it was very nice. It’s the thought that counts :) 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Anya Pentaglot Senior Member France Joined 5785 days ago 636 posts - 708 votes Speaks: Russian*, FrenchC1, English, Italian, Spanish Studies: German, Japanese, Hungarian, Sanskrit, Portuguese, Turkish, Mandarin Studies: Ancient Greek, Hindi | Message 470 of 902 16 December 2012 at 9:58am | IP Logged | ||||||||
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I would like to join Second Romance Team also.
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| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6589 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 471 of 902 16 December 2012 at 10:18am | IP Logged | ||||||||
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Limiting to 15 members? ugh:S Sorry but has anyone speaking of having to read too many logs (on ONE team) actually had problems with that? in TAC 2012 my team had exactly 15 members and three didn't even START logs! 15 is unnecessarily little even for the beginning.
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| Solfrid Cristin Heptaglot Winner TAC 2011 & 2012 Senior Member Norway Joined 5326 days ago 4143 posts - 8864 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, Spanish, Swedish, French, English, German, Italian Studies: Russian | Message 472 of 902 16 December 2012 at 10:37am | IP Logged | ||||||||
I think it is an extremely sensible limit. If 5 more people join the second team, you can just add them to the first team. I think 20 is what has been set as a maximum for a team. 15 is the limit for when you start a second team. If 12 or 15 more join, you do not have to go through the messy operation of taking people off a team they have already been accepted to. Last year when we had no organiser I had to turn people away from the Russian team, which was very unpleasant, and no one wanted to start a new team with just three members. I am really happy that Brun Ugle has come up with such a sensible solution and is willing to take that unpleasantness away from the teams and on her shoulders. Besides, a lot of people are on two or even three teams, and keeping up with between 45 or 60 logs (according to whether there are 15 or 20 on the team) is a full time job. I have seen already this year how difficult it has been to read logs from non-team members, because I was so busy reading the logs of my team mates. As we all know, lots of people never make it past March, and then teams can be merged, but I thought Brun Ugles model was brilliant, in fact I am sorry I did not come up with it myself :-) 1 person has voted this message useful |
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