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kujichagulia
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 Message 361 of 812
20 February 2014 at 1:38am | IP Logged 
Hey, don't worry about when plans change. My plans change all the time. I'm always having to adjust and adapt.
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Serpent
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 Message 362 of 812
20 February 2014 at 3:40am | IP Logged 
Erm, I'm afraid the "polyglot show" is not really your level ;) I know the first editions were English and Italian, and here's something about the latter:
http://ru-italiano.livejournal.com/?skip=270 (read from the bottom of the page, and maybe the next one (the first post was this one http://ru-italiano.livejournal.com/699029.html )
http://ru-italiano.livejournal.com/?skip=260 the final posts about the project

Кстати, знаете ли вы, что , по его словам, именно он консультировал Мутко, после чего прозвучало знаменитое "лэт ми спик фром май харт"?
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Gemuse
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 Message 363 of 812
20 February 2014 at 4:34am | IP Logged 
Via Diva wrote:
For example, I was being sort of blind because I finally saw that
"Whom?" is actually "Wen?" and not "Wem?" as I thought before.
....
"Er liebt sie, sie liebt ihm nicht" quite quickly.


Wen and Wem are both correct.
Wen = Akk of wer
Wem = Dat of wer

And that sentence I think should be
Er liebt sie, sie liebt ihn nicht.

You have had the nominative, akk, dat pronouns, article ending etc drilled in, yes?
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Via Diva
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 Message 364 of 812
20 February 2014 at 10:36am | IP Logged 
kujichagulia, I am not worried, it just annoys me sometimes :)
Serpent, erm, I didn't know about any of these facts. But my point stays straight: I want to speak now, I want to stop being afraid of all the irregularities of German and just push through. That show somehow motivates me. Speaking of level: watched third lesson and felt really terrible, things are mixing up and I don't know what to say whereas students have done drilling and most of them knows what's going on.
Gemuse, yeah, that is the perfect example for the state of my German. I did and I forgot them all by now. Even back then I was constantly mixing them up.

It seems that I need to slow things down and be ready to live with lots of mistakes for a while. Well, we'll see...
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Gemuse
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 Message 365 of 812
20 February 2014 at 2:37pm | IP Logged 
Via Diva wrote:

Gemuse, yeah, that is the perfect example for the state of my German. I did and I
forgot them all by now. Even back then I was constantly mixing them up.

It seems that I need to slow things down and be ready to live with lots of mistakes for
a while. Well, we'll see...


Very easy to fix.
Acquire case declination tables (from internet, photocopy from book, type yourself).
Spend 10 minutes on them everyday (while commuting, whenever you have a couple of
minutes to spare). In a week you will have mastered the table.
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Via Diva
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 Message 366 of 812
20 February 2014 at 3:45pm | IP Logged 
Theoretically I can do it in a bus - take out my phone and start drilling, but I don't want to end up remembering that table every time I'll be trying to speak, hehe. Anyway, sounds promising, I'll try if I won't forget about that)
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Gemuse
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 Message 367 of 812
20 February 2014 at 4:05pm | IP Logged 
Via Diva wrote:
Theoretically I can do it in a bus - take out my phone and start
drilling, but I don't want to end up remembering that table every time I'll be trying
to speak, hehe. Anyway, sounds promising, I'll try if I won't forget about that)


Step 1 is you drill them in (perhaps about 4-5 days). But this gets old very fast.
So then you continue drilling in the table with example sentences. Eg. my Menschen 2.1
text has this table with example sentences:
Ich hätte gern []
where slot []=
einen mageren Schinken
ein helles Brot

Ich finde [] am besten
where slot =
den alten Dom
das bunte Fenster

For dativ you would have
mit []
where [] = einem hellen Brot
den netten Leuten

and so on.


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Via Diva
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 Message 368 of 812
20 February 2014 at 4:37pm | IP Logged 
Actually I've found a method while I was reading a Russian textbook. This one is against all tables, and this is not a single strange thing about the book. Here's only one problem - the book is demanding and I've described all my problems with it earlier. Cases are easier to get for us through the questions, for example, so, maybe, I'll try to go back to that demanding book instead?

Oh, anyway, I do not drop Полиглот in first place.

Thanks for advices :)


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