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| Via Diva Diglot Senior Member Russian Federation last.fm/user/viadivaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4226 days ago 1109 posts - 1427 votes  Speaks: Russian*, English Studies: German, Italian, French, Swedish, Esperanto, Czech, Greek | Message 769 of 812 26 June 2015 at 9:17am | IP Logged | ||
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Well I was being sarcastic, of course. It's just that native speakers who can deal with articles because they have them never quite understand the pain it brings to non-natives who don't have anything like it. it's not even about the rules, it's about rewiring
your brain and thinking whether an object is one of many, or well-known etc. This is something we just never do. ___ I had to brag about the languages I know today. Right after the exam (which I passed all right, in case someone was worried about that) I was to go to the place where I am going to have a 4-week internship. There was no need to show my CV (in which I included English and German) again, but I had to write about my languages abilities. So I wrote: English (fluent), German (intermediate). I am a terrible liar. I mean, come on. The time suggests I am in the intermediate stage. But then again there are some beginner's stuff I miss. Hopefully I won't need German in the ecology group of the waste/ wastewater treatment department. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| daegga Tetraglot Senior Member Austria lang-8.com/553301 Joined 4513 days ago 1076 posts - 1792 votes Speaks: German*, EnglishC2, Swedish, Norwegian Studies: Danish, French, Finnish, Icelandic | Message 770 of 812 26 June 2015 at 12:47pm | IP Logged | ||
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You are able to write lengthy blog posts. If that's not at least intermediate, what
else would it be? I think having gaps according to some standard checklists is normal if you don't follow the traditional procedure. I actually still have some beginner gaps in Swedish. It's just different priorities... On the article thing: I recently got aware that Slovene has definite adjective forms, at least in the male form, even though it doesn't use articles. Any such thing in Russian? Edited by daegga on 26 June 2015 at 12:53pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Elenia Diglot Senior Member United Kingdom lilyonlife.blog Joined 3848 days ago 239 posts - 327 votes Speaks: English*, French Studies: German, Swedish, Esperanto | Message 771 of 812 26 June 2015 at 1:03pm | IP Logged | ||
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My CV looks like that, too. French is down as fluent, Swedish as intermediate...
hopefully they won't look to closely or ask to see proof... 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Via Diva Diglot Senior Member Russian Federation last.fm/user/viadivaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4226 days ago 1109 posts - 1427 votes Speaks: Russian*, English Studies: German, Italian, French, Swedish, Esperanto, Czech, Greek | Message 772 of 812 26 June 2015 at 1:39pm | IP Logged | ||
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daegga, I do need someone to feed my ego because I can't do it on my own :)
Very interesting thing about Slovene adjectives. On one hand, I really can't think of anything like it in Russian, we just end up using this or that to introduce the concept of something definite. I managed to find a thesis in Russian about Latvian adjectives (they seem to have just the same forms as Slovenian), when its author translates two sentences with two different forms of one adjective from Lithanian, she makes no distinction (check in the middle of the page 10). So no, we don't really have that. However, I also found an article about Serbian, which not only claims that Serbian has definite/indefinite adjectives too, but also compares them to short and long Russian adjectives respectfully. Something about long Russian adjectives also mentioned here and I admit I find this article somewhat hard to understand (a long day today, plus some insufficient English), but from what I see, long forms of adjectives are considered to be definite. Personally I don't see any definite/indefinite element in short and long Russian adjectives. However... there might be a hint of it in the short form, maybe? I did a search, found found this book and it states that the short forms in Old Russian indicated indefinite objects, long - definite. Ok, I give up, this is a mess. Elenia, nah, I guess it's not important if you don't have to work with languages. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Via Diva Diglot Senior Member Russian Federation last.fm/user/viadivaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4226 days ago 1109 posts - 1427 votes Speaks: Russian*, English Studies: German, Italian, French, Swedish, Esperanto, Czech, Greek | Message 773 of 812 28 June 2015 at 10:33am | IP Logged | ||
quoting German Wikipedia:
I had not a slightest idea about yet another weirdness of Slovene :D But I actually seem to be the opposite of any meaning written here. I live far too away from any sea, I don't happen to possess many good and I am definitely not a gift. __________ Languages related - sucked in by House of Cards, will have to watch some episodes with English subs because they are not translated in German yet. Annoying, but nothing I can't survive. (and yeah, that's all I do. Verdammtes faules Maedchen. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Cavesa Triglot Senior Member Czech Republic Joined 5001 days ago 3277 posts - 6779 votes Speaks: Czech*, FrenchC2, EnglishC1 Studies: Spanish, German, Italian | Message 774 of 812 28 June 2015 at 11:45am | IP Logged | ||
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I really enjoyed your blog post in German. Understanding boosted my ego, thanks ;-)
But really, you are at least intermediate. Checklists are a good thing but you don't need to check all the points to be at a particular levels. And beginner gaps tend to stick with learners for a long time but they tend to be not that hard to bridge once you identify them. Heh, the identification sometimes takes ages. And what did you write in your CV about the rest of your languages? :-) 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Via Diva Diglot Senior Member Russian Federation last.fm/user/viadivaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4226 days ago 1109 posts - 1427 votes Speaks: Russian*, English Studies: German, Italian, French, Swedish, Esperanto, Czech, Greek | Message 775 of 812 28 June 2015 at 12:24pm | IP Logged | ||
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Ah, good. I think you could also see some mistakes (this is usually easier with something
written by another person, in my experience) ;) Yeah I guess I just shouldn't think about levels too much. Well, in the blank at the organisation was only the place for two, and I didn't mention anything but German and English in my CV because I don't think that my kind of wanderlust is impressive :) 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Via Diva Diglot Senior Member Russian Federation last.fm/user/viadivaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4226 days ago 1109 posts - 1427 votes Speaks: Russian*, English Studies: German, Italian, French, Swedish, Esperanto, Czech, Greek | Message 776 of 812 01 July 2015 at 8:49am | IP Logged | ||
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English: lots of communicating, finished House of Cards
German: finished House of Cards (except two last episodes which didn't have subs in German), gave up of Er ist wieder da, started Herr aller Dinge by Andreas Eschbach (original book plus original audio) French: forgot how to conjugate avoir (an eloquent way of saying "nothing") Eh, shame on me. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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