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| Via Diva Diglot Senior Member Russian Federation last.fm/user/viadivaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4227 days ago 1109 posts - 1427 votes  Speaks: Russian*, English Studies: German, Italian, French, Swedish, Esperanto, Czech, Greek | Message 33 of 88 26 September 2013 at 3:50am | IP Logged | ||||||||
Well, this is a pronunciation part, but the sentence is wrong. "Я говорю по-русски (adverb)" or "Я говорю на русском (adjective) [языке]". You are using an adjective and this way is not correct. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||||||||
| leosmith Senior Member United States Joined 6543 days ago 2365 posts - 3804 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Tagalog | Message 34 of 88 26 September 2013 at 5:27am | IP Logged | ||||||||
I realize you probably aren't talking to me, but I think Pimsleur is the best choice. I recommend you 1) check your pronunciation against the recording, and don't consider you answer correct unless you match it very closely; that includes stress, softness, prosody and intonation, not just vowel and consonant sounds 2) read the transcript (it doesn't exist, so if you don't pm me I won't send it to you) after you do the lesson to map the orthography to the pronunciation. Your goal should be to read the sentences in the transcript out loud with the same pronunciation that you used during the lesson. edit: Should have recommended that you also read all the pronunciation rules to further cement it into your brain. A pretty good free source is the first few lessons of the Princeton course. Edited by leosmith on 29 September 2013 at 5:58am 3 persons have voted this message useful | |||||||||
| fabriciocarraro Hexaglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member Brazil russoparabrasileirosRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4708 days ago 989 posts - 1454 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, EnglishB2, Italian, Spanish, Russian, French Studies: Dutch, German, Japanese | Message 35 of 88 26 September 2013 at 3:45pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
I guess that's exactly where you should add Penguin to the mix. =) 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Марк Senior Member Russian Federation Joined 5049 days ago 2096 posts - 2972 votes Speaks: Russian* | Message 36 of 88 26 September 2013 at 7:58pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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leosmith, 22.2 is not that meaningless. Numeral declension is a complex topic even for
native Russian speakers. While simple numbers are declined in the same manner, compound numerals have many variants in speech. One has to admit that the explanation in 22 is rather complete, accurate and comprehensible. And there is only one suggestion to skip the material, while explaining pronunciation Brown wrote four or five times in different words and even using CAPITAL LETTERS how negligible softness, vowel reduction and voicing/devoicing are. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Cristianoo Triglot Senior Member Brazil https://projetopoligRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4114 days ago 175 posts - 289 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, FrenchB2, English Studies: Russian | Message 37 of 88 27 September 2013 at 2:16am | IP Logged | ||||||||
Thanks a lot for correcting me. 3 persons have voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Cristianoo Triglot Senior Member Brazil https://projetopoligRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4114 days ago 175 posts - 289 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, FrenchB2, English Studies: Russian | Message 38 of 88 28 September 2013 at 4:22am | IP Logged | ||||||||
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Got Penguin lesson 6 and Pimsleur 6 done. Didn't learn how to pronounce correctly the sentence не сейчас and some other complicated ones. Trying harder though Vocab continues to defy me. There are a lot of new words to learn. Any tips? Anki? I like Anki very much, but I dont know (yet) how to build my own decks. I always get a built one from another person. Maybe the time to learn it has come. I like when Pimsleur audio presents sentences with sounds that doesn't exist in my language. I really like to pronounciate then. They are so different :) Edited by Cristianoo on 28 September 2013 at 4:24am 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Марк Senior Member Russian Federation Joined 5049 days ago 2096 posts - 2972 votes Speaks: Russian* | Message 39 of 88 28 September 2013 at 10:51am | IP Logged | ||||||||
What's complex in не сейчас? It is pronounced as a single word, the first two syllables are reduced (the first is reduced more, so it's more like a schwa there, but the н remains soft as well as the first с and ч). So, нисичас. Сейчас is often pronounced щас. About vocabulary. Try to read texts which you've read in Portuguese on a interesting topic. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||||||||
| fabriciocarraro Hexaglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member Brazil russoparabrasileirosRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4708 days ago 989 posts - 1454 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, EnglishB2, Italian, Spanish, Russian, French Studies: Dutch, German, Japanese | Message 40 of 88 28 September 2013 at 9:36pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
Mark, would you know where I could find Russian graded readers for B2 level online? 1 person has voted this message useful |
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