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| renaissancemedi Bilingual Triglot Senior Member Greece Joined 4351 days ago 941 posts - 1309 votes  Speaks: Greek*, Ancient Greek*, EnglishC2 Studies: French, Russian, Turkish, Modern Hebrew | Message 105 of 252 20 January 2014 at 9:20pm | IP Logged | ||
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Happy to help :)
Turkish Finished the TY first chapter. Exercises done. Not all successful. It takes time to really, automatically use the language. I am so not there yet! Time to move on! 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| renaissancemedi Bilingual Triglot Senior Member Greece Joined 4351 days ago 941 posts - 1309 votes Speaks: Greek*, Ancient Greek*, EnglishC2 Studies: French, Russian, Turkish, Modern Hebrew | Message 106 of 252 20 January 2014 at 9:41pm | IP Logged | ||
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Someone stop me please.
After having a difficult time juggling three languages, with russian the least studied so far, what is the next, logical step for me? To add another language, of course! Hebrew, in particular. Боже мой! Not only that, but I am seriously considering changing my chosen courses to assimil or FSI. What am I to do? If I am going to seriously study 3-4 languages, I need very solid courses. French is out of that equation because it's a special case. Turkish, well, I'm happy with TY, although FSI always calls... But for Russian, maybe I should just use assimil, because my current course has too many books, and it's difficult and time consuming to properly keep up. As for Hebrew, a self studying course is a must, because it seems kind of a special case too. I should try to be practical here, and time efficient, and chose the most productive strategy. One course (repeat, one course, one course...) for each language. Oh dear.. 
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| renaissancemedi Bilingual Triglot Senior Member Greece Joined 4351 days ago 941 posts - 1309 votes Speaks: Greek*, Ancient Greek*, EnglishC2 Studies: French, Russian, Turkish, Modern Hebrew | Message 107 of 252 20 January 2014 at 10:37pm | IP Logged | ||
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Some late night ranting (you've been warned, read on at you rown risk).
So, assimil Russian is on! 1950s or 1970s, that is the question. I have read all the threads on the subject, because this has been in my thoughts before. I am thinking 1970s, mainly for all the rave reviews it gets. But I have to say, 1950s is also tempting, because of its content, which seems to be more than anything that followed. I like their voices too. I think it will be the 1950s one after all. Not many words about the other russian course I abandon. It's truly wonderful, but hard without a teacher, and with so many books! Seriously, each chapter fells like a marathon. You learn though. My russian goal is simply to have nice conversations, and read, read, read! So, assimil with its litterature texts seems fine. As for hebrew, I have always been interested in it. Just learning from Pimsleur is not enough, I want the script as well. FSI looks promising, but then again so does assimil. Not to mention that its french base will help with my french. Another keyboard to learn. I see a lot of handwriting coming my way. And only one book (well, two, but not at the same time!). It has cursive too. Assimil it is! So: French: several sources (it's the only language I have no doubt about) Turkish: TY. Russian: Assimil 1950s Hebrew: Assimil There, now I feel better. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| MithradatesG Newbie United States Joined 4268 days ago 30 posts - 36 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Mandarin, French, Armenian, Turkish, Italian | Message 108 of 252 20 January 2014 at 11:55pm | IP Logged | ||
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It's funny. You've started with TY Turkish and feel drawn toward using FSI Turkish and I'm going in the other direction! I've been using FSI Turkish, but on the weekends I'm doing TY Turkish.
I think they complement each other well. FSI Turkish is very slow moving. (At least, at the beginning it is.) However, it provides very useful exercises for learning how to use the language automatically (as you said you wanted). TY Turkish, I feel, doesn't teach the language as deeply, but lets you see more of the language more quickly. I like doing TY Turkish because it provides new vocabulary that I can use with the patterns I learned in FSI Turkish. It also keeps me from getting bored with the slow pace of the FSI course. İyı şanslar! 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Cristianoo Triglot Senior Member Brazil https://projetopoligRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4114 days ago 175 posts - 289 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, FrenchB2, English Studies: Russian | Message 109 of 252 21 January 2014 at 2:52am | IP Logged | ||
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I study 2 languages. Each one has it's own time in my schedule and I'm still having
troubles. I don't know how you handle this :) 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| renaissancemedi Bilingual Triglot Senior Member Greece Joined 4351 days ago 941 posts - 1309 votes Speaks: Greek*, Ancient Greek*, EnglishC2 Studies: French, Russian, Turkish, Modern Hebrew | Message 110 of 252 21 January 2014 at 8:19am | IP Logged | ||
I agree with your FSI and TY comments, and I believe as well that they complement each other. Ideally I want to use both. Actually I was influenced by kanewai on that one, because he seems to have the same opinion. My only problem is fear! As we say in greek, πελάγωσα, I am in the middle of the sea right now, meaning I am overwhelmed. As I have finished the first TY unit, maybe I should proceed with the first FSI unit, etc. And see what happens. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| renaissancemedi Bilingual Triglot Senior Member Greece Joined 4351 days ago 941 posts - 1309 votes Speaks: Greek*, Ancient Greek*, EnglishC2 Studies: French, Russian, Turkish, Modern Hebrew | Message 111 of 252 21 January 2014 at 8:36am | IP Logged | ||
Ask me again at the end of the year how I handle this! Because so far I don't. I learned a lot from last year though, and I am treating this in more efficient ways. I hope! I also steal ideas from other logs. I can tell you this as well: I have different goals for each language, and, although perfection is ideal, I don't stress and i don't feel like I have to learn everything at once. I am also an optimist, which helps! Besides, even if I get out of this with one language, I see it as having won. Last year I actually saw great progress with my Italian, although German was unfortunately not a success. I was still happy. This year I have higher expectations of me, though. I bought a blackboard/whiteboard thing, to avoid all the paper while writing my endless drills. Of course some exercises are worth writing down, like stories etc. I generally try to make things easy for me. Cristianoo, you will do great, from what I've seen so far. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Solfrid Cristin Heptaglot Winner TAC 2011 & 2012 Senior Member Norway Joined 5327 days ago 4143 posts - 8864 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, Spanish, Swedish, French, English, German, Italian Studies: Russian | Message 112 of 252 21 January 2014 at 9:26am | IP Logged | ||
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I really like your choice of languages! French is one of my top three (the ones I am actually good at) Russian
is my great passion, Turkish is something I through an unexpected twist will get back to now, and Hebrew has always been close to my heart although my present skills consist in saying "Thank you very much" and "I do not understand". 1 person has voted this message useful |
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