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mrwarper
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 Message 169 of 252
03 February 2014 at 2:12pm | IP Logged 
renaissancemedi wrote:
For the FSI learners, a paper on the FSI courses and language learning.

FSI, Lessons learned from fifty years of theory and practice in government language teaching

This is old but a good summary and always a very motivational reading, because it simply *demonstrates* that a lot is possible and it applies to much more than the FSI. We should get links to this every month :)
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 Message 170 of 252
03 February 2014 at 2:59pm | IP Logged 
@ mrwarper: yes I found it very motivating (shamefully admitting I hadn't read it before)


Turkish

Common words. As always, the English word is the greek meaning

Rahat, rest, ραχάτι

Merak, sadness, worry, secret love, μεράκι

Kuru, a kind of pastry crust for cheesepie, κουρού

Lokma, a kind of sweet, λουκουμάς


Pilav, rice, πιλάφι

Sıra, turn, σειρά

Soy, extended family, σόι




Doğru, straight, ντουγρού

Tembel, lazy, τεμπέλης

Dolma, a kind of food, ντολμάς

Kapak, lid, καπάκι

Küp, jug, κιούπι

Plaki, a way to cook things, πλακί

Karpuz, watermelon, καρπούζι

Bakkal, grocer, μπακάλης

Çabuk, bully, τσαμπουκάς

These are just from a couple of FSI units, not counting the common words that have very obvious greek/european origins like democrat, stadium, etc.


I see a lot of common food words in there :)


Edited by renaissancemedi on 03 February 2014 at 3:13pm

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 Message 171 of 252
03 February 2014 at 10:18pm | IP Logged 
I study little in the earlier stages, before I approach B1. So, i'm still studying little
for Russian, only 1 lesson a day. It might take long but if you really don't feel
passionate for the language the way you do for Turkish and French, it's much better than
simply dropping it. I still see progress after 1 year and 3 months, though it's much
slower than in some other languages.
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 Message 172 of 252
04 February 2014 at 7:37am | IP Logged 
Thank you for sharing the article about FSI, I hadn't read it either and it does give food for thought. It also
puts remarks we have all made as foreign language learners or teachers (which is the case for me) in a more
scientific way, and it´s nice to have your humble naïve opinion confirmed by academic searchers!
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 Message 173 of 252
04 February 2014 at 8:32am | IP Logged 
@ Expugnator: I was thinking exactly the same thing. Slow progress will eventually get us where we want to go! The trick is, instead of giving up, to form a habit. After all, if we are in no hurry to learn a language... One assimil lesson a day is what I want as well at this point. Which means 100 days, or a bit more, to cover some rather advanced material.

@ agantik: You are welcome :)


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 Message 174 of 252
04 February 2014 at 10:37am | IP Logged 
Merhaba. Benim adım Penelope. Ben yunanım . Ben türkçe öğrenmek istiyorum, ama bu kolay değil. Hoşçakal.




12 useful Turkish phrases.

1. hoş geldiniz — it’s nice you came / welcome (Καλώς ήλθες)

2. hoş bulduk — I find it nice (Καλώς σας βρήκα)

3. Buyrun— please / here you are / walk this way / etc (Ορίστε)

4. teşekkür ederim — thank you

5. Elinize sağlık — health to your hands (Γειά στα χέρια σου)

6. afiyet olsun — may it be good for you (Σε καλό σου)

7. güle güle kullanin — use it smiling

8. kolay gelsin — may it come easy

9. Allah Allah — good Lord (Θεέ μου! not at all blasphemy, contrary to English)

10. geçmiş olsun — may it pass (Περαστικά)

11. inşallah — God willing (Πρώτα ο Θεός)

12. aferin sana — good for you (to be used briefly as just "Aferin")


I translated the greek phrases that are exactly the same. I mean, exactly.


Song of the day


Μαντώ – Sertab Erener ”Φως-Aşk”



Edited by renaissancemedi on 04 February 2014 at 10:03pm

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 Message 175 of 252
04 February 2014 at 6:04pm | IP Logged 
Just a few corrections :

sentence no. 3 must be "Buyrun" , not "buyurun" (the root verb is buyurmak but that's
just a harmony rule that you'll encounter later :))
sentence no. 5 must be "Elinize sağlık" , not "elenize sağılık"
sentence no. 12 is preferred to be used briefly as just "Aferin".

And your Turkish introduction sentence is great, congrats !
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 Message 176 of 252
04 February 2014 at 10:25pm | IP Logged 
Teşekkürler Fireball :) I appreciate your taking the time to correct me, because I know you are busy!

I have already made the proper corrections, and I am very happy the text was ok. It's scary ama I will be using every word I know from now on. Evet, I will.


İyi geceler, ve teşekkürler arkadaşım. (I hope calling you that is ok. Should I say teşekkür ederim instead, for politeness? Or is it sağolun? Pardon all the questions...)

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