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| tristano Tetraglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 4040 days ago 905 posts - 1262 votes  Speaks: Italian*, Spanish, French, English Studies: Dutch | Message 49 of 145 27 March 2014 at 6:25pm | IP Logged |
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News: I passed the french exam :)
I can subscribe for the B1 course. Can't wait :) 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| tristano Tetraglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 4040 days ago 905 posts - 1262 votes Speaks: Italian*, Spanish, French, English Studies: Dutch | Message 50 of 145 27 March 2014 at 8:08pm | IP Logged |
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Other random news:
I discovered Memrise, and I found it to be a really good resource to learn vocabulary. It is very effective and really simple to use, with great content. I find it more fun than anki. I need approximately 10 minutes for four "lessons", around 15-20 words. That allows me to dedicate a small established time for every language to increase vocabulary that usually is one of the more boring parts (at least for me). So, for two of my four languages I have a coverage with Memrise + Duolingo: - German - French For Mandarin, I can rely to Memrise only since I'm only learning the written part for this year. For Persian, there is something on Memrise but I don't understand how should I able to write Persian characters if doesn't appear a persian keyboard on the screen... so since now, nothing useful. But I rely for the moment to Assimil + anki for Persian. The time needed (approximately) for my studies are 20 minutes per language (but 10 for mandarin, a total of 70 minutes everyday. Of course there is no way that I can guarantee this amount of work everyday. On top of that, I absolutely need to start a spoken course for German, I'm not sure if FSI or Pimsleur. (EDIT: most probably FSI) I should do also the same with Persian (FSI or DLI)... On urgency side, German is much more urgent than Persian, so it is a priority for me. Let's say from the most urgent to the less urgent: - German (I feel the need to learn it the fastest I can, for work related reason. Germany and Austria are two great places to work and to live and in general the best countries to work for me speak all Germanic languages, plus like French is very important in european organizations) - French (I'm also following classes so I can relax a bit with the self study and I'm already intermediate so I'm able to use native resources that makes it more fun) - Persian (I love it but having less high quality resources than the others makes it more difficult to learn rapidly) - Mandarin (Long long journey. It doesn't make sense to hurry up) Edited by tristano on 27 March 2014 at 8:54pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| tristano Tetraglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 4040 days ago 905 posts - 1262 votes Speaks: Italian*, Spanish, French, English Studies: Dutch | Message 51 of 145 02 April 2014 at 2:15pm | IP Logged |
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I'm constantly receiving good feedbacks for my French by French people, especially for
the pronunciation :) :) I'm really proud of this! 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| druckfehler Triglot Senior Member Germany Joined 4861 days ago 1181 posts - 1912 votes Speaks: German*, EnglishC2, Korean Studies: Persian | Message 52 of 145 02 April 2014 at 5:07pm | IP Logged |
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Congratulations on passing your exam!
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| tristano Tetraglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 4040 days ago 905 posts - 1262 votes Speaks: Italian*, Spanish, French, English Studies: Dutch | Message 53 of 145 06 April 2014 at 11:26pm | IP Logged |
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Thanks! :)
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| tristano Tetraglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 4040 days ago 905 posts - 1262 votes Speaks: Italian*, Spanish, French, English Studies: Dutch | Message 54 of 145 07 April 2014 at 4:27pm | IP Logged |
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So!
I changed my mind (another time). Oh, and I decided to restart studying Dutch! Team Oranje, I'm newly an orange soldier! =) I read in the last days the Bakunin's amazingly inspiring Turkish log (http://how-to- learn-any-language.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=38217&PN=1& TPN=1 I advice anyone to read it). His method is all about absorbing the language through comprehensible input before activate it: the grammar study and the spoken part are postponed at when there is a good understanding of the language. It is actually much much more (read it to believe!), but for my purposes since I'm not starting from scratch I will use a different approach. With English and French, my best languages, I indeed learnt in a similar way: I studied a little grammar but made most of my language building from comprehensible input. So, while I will continue using duolingo and memrise with French (plus group classes and conversations with my french speaking colleagues), I will do something different for dutch, German and persian: - I use the dutch method for assimil ( http://languagegeek.net/2010/05/12/how-to-use- an-assimil-course/) with assimil and other methods that provide both the target language text plus English or french translation (I have to explore and discover which ones, living language and colloquial can be candidates but maybe there are better options depending on the language) to build coprehension of written and spoken language - I use also native resources (for example, I have a beautiful collection of Donald Duck's comics for Dutch, plus a couple of novels, I will find something for German while I will wait for French to when I'm more used to read the arabic script) to build the written language plus I will watch youtube videos for the spoken language. I will learn vocabulary without looking up the words in this case. - plus memrise - but not for persian. For Mandarin, I stick to study only charachters and some word with anki and memrise. I'm not in a hurry. I'm still looking for an identity as language learner, this is clear when reading my posts :D But this fail-succeed method was successfully with me in other fields. It is about not the magic formula but the formula that fits me better. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |
| tristano Tetraglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 4040 days ago 905 posts - 1262 votes Speaks: Italian*, Spanish, French, English Studies: Dutch | Message 55 of 145 08 April 2014 at 7:32pm | IP Logged |
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Just realised that I am in the Netherlands... En ik heb televise!!! Ik heb youtube videos niet nodig
om te gebruiken maar kan ik telefilms zien! Mooi :) (yes my Dutch grammar sucks, I will learn it.) I also realised that although I studied a lot more Dutch than German I already understand German better than Dutch. wth :D Edited by tristano on 08 April 2014 at 7:34pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| tristano Tetraglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 4040 days ago 905 posts - 1262 votes Speaks: Italian*, Spanish, French, English Studies: Dutch | Message 56 of 145 12 April 2014 at 1:30pm | IP Logged |
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I'm beta testing the multi Germanic input by doing the same work with Assimil and Memrise also with Danish,
Norwegian and Swedish. The targets remain Dutch and German. The idea is that if I can boost my ability to understand unclear input by having interiorised a major variety of more or less close cognates thanks to shared vocabulary and structures, then becomes easier the guessing process. My abilities to understand spoken German and (but still less) Dutch are increasing positively thanks to my daily work with those two languages. Today my singing teacher gave me a German aria to study for the first time (since now only Italian!), fantastic :D 1 person has voted this message useful |
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