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| Spanky Senior Member Canada Joined 5946 days ago 1021 posts - 1714 votes  Studies: French | Message 89 of 170 10 February 2015 at 1:05am | IP Logged | ||
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Drats, it looks like no one here is studying Icelandic, a language which I hope to study hard over the next five months. I had been hoping to freeload off the efforts of others, but oh well.
Out of interest, do any of you have a sense as to whether, and to what degree, studying Icelandic would benefit subsequent efforts to learn other Scandinavian languages? My limited understanding is that Icelandic is not as closely-related to Swedish, Danish, Norwegian as those languages are related to each other, and that accordingly, Icelandic is really not a “gateway” language as opposed to just a super-interesting cul-de-sac sort of language. Thanks for any response, and good luck with your team efforts this year! 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| daegga Tetraglot Senior Member Austria lang-8.com/553301 Joined 4511 days ago 1076 posts - 1792 votes Speaks: German*, EnglishC2, Swedish, Norwegian Studies: Danish, French, Finnish, Icelandic | Message 90 of 170 10 February 2015 at 1:27am | IP Logged | ||
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There are people studying Icelandic on this forum, just not for the TAC.
In a way, German is more helpful for the Scandinavian languages than Icelandic. This is because about 1/3 of the vocabulary is loaned from (mostly Low, but also High) German, most of which is very common vocabulary. Once you get to a more advanced stage, you get more Scandinavian vocabulary, which means knowing Icelandic will get increasingly more helpful. Of course most of the functional words are of Scandinavian origin, not German, but these are not so many. If you want to use it as a gateway language, your next step would be to learn Nynorsk (one of the Norwegian written standards) and West Norwegian dialects. Faroese would come before that if you're interested in that language. Old Icelandic is more useful (and easier) than the modern version, all those neologisms just hold you back. Edited by daegga on 10 February 2015 at 1:29am 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Shemtov Diglot Groupie United States Joined 4804 days ago 49 posts - 59 votes Speaks: English*, Biblical Hebrew Studies: Mandarin, Japanese, Aramaic | Message 91 of 170 11 February 2015 at 1:28pm | IP Logged | ||
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| Sarnek Diglot Senior Member Italy Joined 4205 days ago 308 posts - 414 votes Speaks: Italian*, English Studies: German, Swedish | Message 92 of 170 11 February 2015 at 6:27pm | IP Logged | ||
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February Challenge
Jag har ingen daglig rutin, men just nu mina veckodagar ser någonting så här ut. Vanligtvis vaknar jag runt 7, äter frukost, duschar och klär på mig. Sedan går jag hemifrån till tunnelbannan, tar den och åker till unversitetet. Jag cycklar om det är soligt och molnlöst, men det sällan är det här i Milano :( Jag har föreläsningar igenom dagen (den här terminen har jag 5 kurser: svenska II, tyska II, tyskspråkig litteratur II, skandinavisk litteratur II och tysk språkvetenskap), från 8 till 18, och ibland äter jag på universitets kafeterian. På kvällarna brukar jag stanna hemma och läsa eller titta på nån film. Edit: (why does the forum keep screwing my formatting over?) Edited by Sarnek on 11 February 2015 at 6:41pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Expugnator Hexaglot Senior Member Brazil Joined 5156 days ago 3335 posts - 4349 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, Norwegian, French, English, Italian, Papiamento Studies: Mandarin, Georgian, Russian | Message 93 of 170 11 February 2015 at 8:42pm | IP Logged | ||
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February Challenge
Jeg våkner klokka halv syv, men står ikke opp med en gang. Som regelt, legger jeg noen minutter i sengen og leser noe i tableten for å våkne opp hjernen min. Så går jeg til kjøkkenet og ha frokost: to frukter, ristet brød og helkornbrød med vann. Jeg drikker ikke melk eller saft til frokost. Etter frokost går jeg tilbake til soverommet og skifter klær for å gå til helsestudioet. Jeg drar til helsestudioet ved kvart over syv. Jeg gjør styrketrening og løper på tredemølla i ti til femten minutter. På kvart over åtten er jeg hjemme igjen. Jeg tar en dusj og gjør smørbrød for å ta til arbeidet. Jeg drar hjemmefra klokka halv ti og det tar meg omtrent tjueto minutter for å gå til arbeidet. Jeg spiser lunsj i restauranter, vanglivis ved tjue over elleve. Siden jeg står opp tidlig, trener hver dag og går til kontorer, blir jeg sulten tidlig også. Lunsj er det viktigste måltidet her i Brasil, og jeg pleier å spise lunsj hvor det serveres mange retter med kokte grønnsaker. Arbedeitet varer til klokka sju på kvelden. Jeg går straks hjem og slapper av de fleste dager, men det kan hende også at jeg går ut og tar noen kurs (men ingen språkkurs, bør jeg avtale) eller møter noen venner, eller begge deler. Jeg har ikke en ordentlig middag. Middag eller suppe er ikke pliktig her i Brasil. Jeg bare spiser brød med egg eller kjeks og drikker saft. Jeg ser sjelden på TV. I kveld foretrekker jeg å lese bøker som har ingenting å gjøre med språk (ikke direkte, må jeg inrømme) eller å spille på tableten før jeg går til sengs. Det er varmt i Brasil og jeg går mye, derfor tar jeg alltid en annen dusj før jeg legger meg. Jeg prøver å sove siden klokka ti i kveld, men jeg klarer ikke altid det. Så har jeg ikke alltid de nødvendige åtte timers søvn, men jeg blir vanligvis helt frisk etter trening på treningsstudio om morgenen tidlig. Naturligvis er alt helt annerledes i helgen. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
 Iversen Super Polyglot Moderator Denmark berejst.dk Joined 6693 days ago 9078 posts - 16473 votes Speaks: Danish*, French, English, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Swedish, Esperanto, Romanian, Catalan Studies: Afrikaans, Greek, Norwegian, Russian, Serbian, Icelandic, Latin, Irish, Lowland Scots, Indonesian, Polish, Croatian Personal Language Map | Message 94 of 170 12 February 2015 at 5:56pm | IP Logged | ||
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I don't spend much time on Icelandic, mostly because I already have reached the point where I can read it fairly fluently, but rarely hear it spoken, rarely think and write in it and never ever speak it (it would take a third trip to Iceland to make me do something about the speaking part).
My native language Danish is a very important source for common vocabulary, but less so for expressions. The grammar looks more like (High) German than Danish with its four cases, frequently used subjunctive and three persons in singular and plural of all verbs. Daegga mentions loanwords from German (High and Low), but in those cases where Icelandic has adopted a German word it is mostly also found in Danish. So I think I see a lot of connections between Icelandic and Danish which wouldn't be obvious to people who know less of both languages - or in other words: the words and expressions in Danish which are similar to those of Icelandic are often part of the most oldfashioned and 'quirky' Danish wordstock, i.e. ways of expression which you wouldn't find in modern Danish speech, but rather in slightly dusty books from earlier centuries. But some things connect the two languages, like the vowel changes of strong verbs, which are surprisingly well preserved in Danish. There are also connections to other Scandinavian languages, but somewhat surprisingly I can't see or hear that the Western Norwegian dialects I hear on NRK are closer to Icelandic than my own Danish is. Shared vocabulary is mostly also found in Danish. But maybe the native Norwegians notice connections I can't see or hear. ... og det slår mig lige at jeg burde have skrevet dette på enten dansk eller islandsk, men nu er det for sent. Edited by Iversen on 12 February 2015 at 6:09pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Spanky Senior Member Canada Joined 5946 days ago 1021 posts - 1714 votes Studies: French | Message 95 of 170 12 February 2015 at 9:12pm | IP Logged | ||
Thanks daegga and Iversen for your responses about Icelandic, interesting.
If you had, all that interesting information would have been lost to me! (in 5 months from now, I hope to have become able to write this comment in íslenska). Spanky Garthsson Edited by Spanky on 12 February 2015 at 9:21pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| daegga Tetraglot Senior Member Austria lang-8.com/553301 Joined 4511 days ago 1076 posts - 1792 votes Speaks: German*, EnglishC2, Swedish, Norwegian Studies: Danish, French, Finnish, Icelandic | Message 96 of 170 19 February 2015 at 12:26am | IP Logged | ||
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Haha, great opening:
http://tv.nrk.no/serie/norske-fordommer/MYNT19100115/sesong- 1/episode-1 1 person has voted this message useful |
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