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| js6426 Diglot Senior Member Cambodia Joined 4513 days ago 277 posts - 349 votes  Speaks: English*, Khmer Studies: Mandarin | Message 17 of 40 23 February 2014 at 1:49pm | IP Logged | ||
It's called 不见面的朋友 (bù jiànmiànde péngyǒu). I haven't been able to find it anywhere on youtube unfortunately! I downloaded it a long time a go from some website that I can't remember either :-( They also had the words and so I downloaded a few different songs and the lyrics, and as I listen to this song quite a bit I thought I would go back and have a go at translating it! How are you getting on in the TAC this year druckfehler?? 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| druckfehler Triglot Senior Member Germany Joined 4861 days ago 1181 posts - 1912 votes Speaks: German*, EnglishC2, Korean Studies: Persian | Message 18 of 40 25 February 2014 at 11:02pm | IP Logged | ||
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Thanks :) I'm getting on quite well with Persian, thanks mostly to the 6WC. For now it's really easy compared to Korean. I'm just chugging along with Korean at the moment. As soon as I no longer have to read for exams, I plan to do a lot of reading - I finished my third Korean novel of the year in January and it seems like reading is the way to go. Recently, Mandarin has been calling out to me again... Right now it has to wait, but it will probably be the next language I start - whenever that may be.
Do you have a plan for when to start Japanese/Cantonese? After a certain number of years of Chinese study or after you reach a certain level? 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| js6426 Diglot Senior Member Cambodia Joined 4513 days ago 277 posts - 349 votes Speaks: English*, Khmer Studies: Mandarin | Message 19 of 40 26 February 2014 at 7:44am | IP Logged | ||
I think once I feel my mandarin is good enough I will start. I will probably start both Cantonese and Japanese at the same time, because I don't think there will be a time (at least not in the near future) when I will absolutely need to be able to speak those 2 languages, and they both look really fun to learn. My wife and I would really like to move to China in the next few years and so Mandarin, while it isn't essential, has to be the priority right now. Also I'm sure being in China will help a ton for my Chinese, as right now I'm simply not getting enough practice. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| js6426 Diglot Senior Member Cambodia Joined 4513 days ago 277 posts - 349 votes Speaks: English*, Khmer Studies: Mandarin | Message 20 of 40 02 March 2014 at 2:58am | IP Logged | ||
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2/3/2014 - This week has been fairly average. Anki is up to date and got some listening practice in. I am meeting
up for a language exchange today and so will see how that goes. I still haven't started my MCB deck because I want to put audio in, and so I have uploaded sentences to RhinoSpike and already have some audio responses, so soon I will begin to make that deck and will be able to include audio which is cool. For the March challenge in the Chinese team I am going to try and listen to 10 hours of native material over the month of March. I am only including things I actually watch here, not podcasts or anything like that. This isn't a huge amount of material, but I am busy and so I'd rather set a goal that is doable and end up doing more than setting a goal which is too high and failing at it! 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| js6426 Diglot Senior Member Cambodia Joined 4513 days ago 277 posts - 349 votes Speaks: English*, Khmer Studies: Mandarin | Message 21 of 40 08 March 2014 at 12:39pm | IP Logged | ||
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8/3/2014 - This week has been a really good week. I watched a 2 hour Japanese anime movie in Chinese today
called 千与千寻. It was really enjoyable and I actually understood more than I expected to, probably in part due to the subtitles! Something came up last Sunday so the language exchange moved to Thursday, and it was really cool. Her Chinese is great, she speaks very fast but I still find it much easier to understand her than a native speaker! Obviously it isn't ideal, but to be honest it's all input which is exactly what I need. I was really encouraged by it and we will be meeting up again tomorrow to continue. I have made a start on my MCB deck with audio from RhinoSpike. I have made 40 cards and have audio for the first 20, so the second 20 are now awaiting audio on RhinoSpike. I think I am going to have to create the cards without audio to begin with and just add audio when it is ready, otherwise I will be waiting around for ages! I learnt some new characters (just reading) and some cool new vocab too. All in all I am feeling very encouraged about this week, I feel like it has been one of those milestone weeks that I will look back on as a significant point, I think mainly because I was able to understand more of someone speaking Chinese than I had expected, and because I was able to get my point across for what I wanted to say much more often that expected also! Next week is crazy busy, so my goal is just to keep up to date on Anki and maybe try and get a Chinese movie in, and then hit it hard the week after that. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| js6426 Diglot Senior Member Cambodia Joined 4513 days ago 277 posts - 349 votes Speaks: English*, Khmer Studies: Mandarin | Message 22 of 40 15 March 2014 at 11:46am | IP Logged | ||
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15/3/2014 - This week has been a busy one but I still managed to get some Chinese in. My anki is up to date. I
watched the finale of season 5 of China's got talent which was over 2 hours 20 minutes long. I have also started watching 男人帮 again on Youtube. I watched episode 12 and will probably watch another episode or two this evening. Each episode is 40 minutes long. So right now that puts me at 5 hours which is the halfway mark for the March challenge, and as today is the 15th that puts me right on track! Hoping to go above the 10 hour goal if possible. I am still struggling with native material, I find with some things I can understand the big picture of what's going on, and other things I can only pick out the odd word. There really doesn't seem to be any indicator of what is making it harder or easier for me! I guess I am just going to keep on listening to as much native material as possible whilst working on my vocabulary, and I'm sure it will eventually begin to make sense! I have also stopped with the grammar study for now, just because I have read/heard in a few different places lately that grammar acquisition is best done through actually listening to the language being spoken. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| js6426 Diglot Senior Member Cambodia Joined 4513 days ago 277 posts - 349 votes Speaks: English*, Khmer Studies: Mandarin | Message 23 of 40 22 March 2014 at 12:45pm | IP Logged | ||
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22/3/2014 - not much to report this week. I have watched up to episode 20 of 男人帮 which puts me up to 9 hours,
a couple more episodes and I will have completed the March challenge which is encouraging! Anki all up to date, some new vocab learnt. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Bakunin Diglot Senior Member Switzerland outerkhmer.blogspot. Joined 5123 days ago 531 posts - 1126 votes Speaks: German*, Thai Studies: Khmer | Message 24 of 40 29 March 2014 at 6:46am | IP Logged | ||
It is often thought to be helpful to first get familiar with language patterns by observing actual language use, and then look at the principles behind those patterns. It's probably easier to understand and apply grammar if one has already seen a good number of examples and has even used a few set expressions exemplifying a particular grammatical construction, instead of approaching grammar as an intellectual or algorithmic exercise with little actual language to relate it back to. I think a good middle-ground strategy would also be to study grammar when one encounters particular structures and gets curious about them. Delaying it longer (or forever) until certain constructions become second nature also works but requires more input. As a practical example with some relevance to Chinese, I never studied the grammar around Thai measure words, but over time I've developed a pretty solid grasp of the various ways to express reference to a number of objects. There are only so many different patterns, and after I've seen and heard them used in the wild hundreds of times, they became second nature. Another good strategy is to take constructions one encounters and use them back as they are. Later one can start to substitute new words and pay attention to subtle differences and variations. Over time, one expands from that one example to a full (and practical) understanding of the construction. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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