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| t1234 Diglot Newbie South Africa Joined 4131 days ago 38 posts - 83 votes  Speaks: English*, Afrikaans Studies: Turkish, Polish | Message 81 of 252 09 January 2014 at 4:36pm | IP Logged | ||
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Try Viki: http://www.viki.com/tv/browse
Just choose Turkey from the Countries drop down. Unfortunately though some episode or parts of episodes are sometimes missing or not translated at all. You can also watch Turkish TV at: http://www.trt.net.tr/Anasayfa/canli.aspx?y=tv 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| renaissancemedi Bilingual Triglot Senior Member Greece Joined 4351 days ago 941 posts - 1309 votes Speaks: Greek*, Ancient Greek*, EnglishC2 Studies: French, Russian, Turkish, Modern Hebrew | Message 82 of 252 09 January 2014 at 5:25pm | IP Logged | ||
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Thank you both. That was really helpful.
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| fireballtrouble Triglot Senior Member Turkey Joined 4517 days ago 129 posts - 203 votes Speaks: Turkish*, French, English Studies: German | Message 83 of 252 09 January 2014 at 6:08pm | IP Logged | ||
In Turkish series usage of slang is very rare but they speak in daily speed which can be a nightmare for foreigners especially in agglutinative languages like Turkish :)I guess keeping up with accumulation of suffixes while listening shouldn't be as easy as it seems. İntikam is another hit series nowadays. Keep away from Muhteşem Yüzyıl (Magnificent Century) they add many old-fashioned expressions to make audience feel the era. For a more agreable speed but much more clearer pronunciation, you can try cartoons. I find pronunciations of Caillou and Pepee very clear. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| renaissancemedi Bilingual Triglot Senior Member Greece Joined 4351 days ago 941 posts - 1309 votes Speaks: Greek*, Ancient Greek*, EnglishC2 Studies: French, Russian, Turkish, Modern Hebrew | Message 84 of 252 09 January 2014 at 6:55pm | IP Logged | ||
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I hadn't thought of cartoons, thank you for the information and the good idea :)
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| solka Tetraglot Groupie Kazakhstan Joined 6541 days ago 44 posts - 61 votes Speaks: Kazakh, Russian*, Turkish, EnglishC2 Studies: FrenchB1, Japanese | Message 85 of 252 10 January 2014 at 8:02am | IP Logged | ||
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Another cartoon you can try is Trotro (in Turkish). It uses simple but useful everyday
language. I liked watching it in French with my daughter, although she prefers the Russian version that she understands :) You can find all the cartoons, and many 'dizi' online. As for the series, it might be a good idea to start with the old series as they are more likely to have many fans abroad, and, therefore, English subtitles. Some of them are mentioned in the article linked above. Oh, by the way, the news on many Turkish channels are good for learners of language, as they usually repeat one thing over and over, sometimes give subtitles for people's sayings, and show the visuals. But I'm not sure where you can find them online. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| renaissancemedi Bilingual Triglot Senior Member Greece Joined 4351 days ago 941 posts - 1309 votes Speaks: Greek*, Ancient Greek*, EnglishC2 Studies: French, Russian, Turkish, Modern Hebrew | Message 86 of 252 10 January 2014 at 8:44am | IP Logged | ||
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Thanks for your suggestions. As for the news, I get turkish channels from the satellite, so that's no problem :) I am interested in politics and other matters, so it's interesting too. I guess the news also have the advantage of a solid, formal language, which is good when you first learn.
It's still too soon to really understand, but I want to listen to the language a lot. I know from other languages that I will progressively start getting words, then phrases, then really understand. It also makes miracles for the pronunciation, I feel. Edited by renaissancemedi on 10 January 2014 at 9:41am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| renaissancemedi Bilingual Triglot Senior Member Greece Joined 4351 days ago 941 posts - 1309 votes Speaks: Greek*, Ancient Greek*, EnglishC2 Studies: French, Russian, Turkish, Modern Hebrew | Message 87 of 252 10 January 2014 at 8:59am | IP Logged | ||
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Update. I am afraid I will linger a bit more on that first chapter. I keep reading it untill I remember things, and I still haven't dared to do the exercises. I keep trying to find memory tricks to remember things. For the ablative case, we say in greek: anadan papadan, meaning from his mother and father. I don't know if the turks use it the same way, but it helps me remember the ablative. For the genitive I remember the last scene in "forbidden love" where she says to him, "beni bihterini", I am your Bihter or something. So I remember that ending as well. Maybe I got the phrase wrong, but it helps :) For the locative case the example Istanbul'da stuck in my head, so that's done too. The dative I'll just learn cold, and the definite objective I'm still working on. I need to pay extra attention to the ending variations and the changing vowels. I really like it so far, and it may seem slow, but it will work well in the end. I need good foundation right from the start. Later I may not be able to fill important gaps in grammar. 
About vocabulary: Bahçe is also used in greek, μπαξές, although the most common word is κήπος. Küçük I remember from history lessons, because there was a treaty of kyuchuk kainartzi (non turkish spelling). Bir, is used in greek in the phrase bir para, meaning that I bought/sold something for no money at all, very cheap. Also from histoy, şehır. Vapur, we say βαπόρι. The TY vocabulary so far is not touristic, but they are words surely within the common ones people use in all languages. I love the non tourist aspect of this particular course. Edited by renaissancemedi on 10 January 2014 at 2:56pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| renaissancemedi Bilingual Triglot Senior Member Greece Joined 4351 days ago 941 posts - 1309 votes Speaks: Greek*, Ancient Greek*, EnglishC2 Studies: French, Russian, Turkish, Modern Hebrew | Message 88 of 252 10 January 2014 at 9:19am | IP Logged | ||
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I had thought of rotating the languages, but I will continue with turkish today because I want to finish that first chapter.
I still don't know how I can manage three languages, and I feel awe for those who do even more! The positive thing is they are all very different languages, but I have to find a way not to end up doing injustice to one or two of them. Maybe a rotation of three days? But then again, when I am in the flow of studying, as in the case of turkish today, why would I break that up? I don't want to have to revise everything before I continue, but that's what will happen if I allow more than a week between studying sessions. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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