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AlexTG
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Speaks: English*, French
Studies: Latin, German, Spanish, Japanese

 
 Message 9 of 21
05 June 2014 at 4:58pm | IP Logged 
Spanish
Watching an online stream from ESPN Latinoamerica of the French open womens semifinal. Will try to do
same with the final and mens matches (well, might switch to a French stream if it's available). With the
football world cup coming up and the French rugby team about to tour Australia there's gonna be lots of
opportunity for listening practice, so long as I avoid watching the matches with other people.

Best way to do this is have the foreign internet stream hooked up to speakers, and the local TV broadcast on
screen, delayed to be in time with the internet stream. That way you get HD picture, TL commentary.

Edited by AlexTG on 05 June 2014 at 5:04pm

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AlexTG
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Studies: Latin, German, Spanish, Japanese

 
 Message 10 of 21
06 June 2014 at 12:49pm | IP Logged 
German
I'm now shooting through German Made Simple, reading silently. Lesson 10 of 43. I need to practice
reading prose and build up my vocab. German grammar is all fairly transparent, I only need to understand it,
not produce it.

I've been reading German poetry for the last fortnight or so and I think it's great. Meets my tastes much better
than the Spanish tradition, which I find a bit dry and long winded.

I've been mulling over whether to start reading native prose. Given my low vocabulary I'm going to wait for
poetry and German Made Simple to build up my word count first. I'd prefer prose reading to go smoothly
rather than checking the dictionary every second sentence. Assimil's Perfectionment course would probably
be overkill for my needs, though it looks pretty nice.

Edited by AlexTG on 06 June 2014 at 12:53pm

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AlexTG
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 Message 11 of 21
11 June 2014 at 1:55pm | IP Logged 
Japanese
I'm on page 292 of 571 of A Dictionary of Basic Japanese Grammar. It has gotten me used to small
Japanese font and so I've been able to start reading La lune et moi an anthology of haiku from the
journal Ashibi with French translations.

I just got through a really interesting section of A History of Japanese about the annotations historically
used on works of Classical Chinese which allowed Japanese with no knowledge of the language to read
them as if they were awkwardly written Japanese texts. Kinda getting wanderlust to learn Classical Chinese
now...

Edited by AlexTG on 11 June 2014 at 1:56pm

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AlexTG
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Speaks: English*, French
Studies: Latin, German, Spanish, Japanese

 
 Message 12 of 21
20 June 2014 at 2:07am | IP Logged 
World Cup is eating up my spare time, I've altered my sleep schedule completly so I can watch all the
matches despite my time zone (matches at 2am, 5am, and 8am).

I use the radio stations Futbol De Primera (Spanish, US) and Europe 1 (French, Belgium), both of
which are broadcasting to Australia via Tunein despite the fact that they almost certainly aren't supposed to.
Thanks to the DNS provider Unotelly I can also access the TV channel TF1 from France.

Futbol De Primera is my favourite, completely over the top. Goooooooooooooollllllll. Europe 1 has
very intrusive ads.

When none of these broadcast I have to use illegitimate streams. For the astoundingly boring Iran-Nigeria
match I used German commentary for the final 20 minutes, but couldn't parse much at all.

I'm still getting through a bit of Japanese and German stuff each day, but only a very small bit. Not much time
for any reading in other languages either.



Edited by AlexTG on 20 June 2014 at 2:10am

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AlexTG
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 Message 13 of 21
03 July 2014 at 3:54am | IP Logged 
German
The ios/android trivia game "QuizUp" is now available in 5 languages: English, German,
Spanish, French, and Portuguese. I'm using German and it's great reading practice as
well as a vocabulary builder. I'd played it before in English and felt jealous of the
people from non-anglo countries getting language practice. Now I can do the same
mwahaha. And it doesn't even count as procrastination anymore!

I'm up to chapter 25/page 134 of German Made Simple

Japanese
Finished A History of the Japanese Language.
Page 392 of A Dictionary of Basic Japanese Grammar.



Edited by AlexTG on 03 July 2014 at 3:56am

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AlexTG
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 Message 14 of 21
05 August 2014 at 10:00am | IP Logged 
German
Chapter 33 of German Made Simple. I intended to bang through it, but now I'm
going less than a chapter a day. Ah well, slow and steady.

I've started reading Parlons Allemand from the publishing house L'Harmattan.
It's just a hodgepodge of interesting information about the German language and people.    
It assumes the reader already possesses a decent amount of linguistic
knowledge. I'm not sure who they think their target audience is, especially given the
name. I've found it a great read so far.

Japanese
Page 500 of Dictionary of Basic Japanese Grammar
Started reading Assimil's Le Japonais, and I'm up to dialog 19. All very easy
for me so far.

French
I read Petit traité de versification française by Maurice Grammont. Provided me
with some good insights into the functioning of the language at its highest
level(poetry). I completely disagreed with the author on his views on how to adapt the
rules of versification to the modern language. Especially given he seemed to just take
as a given that "the modern language" equals "how we educated Parisians speak". Erg.
Edit: just looked up the author, and found out this book was written in 1911 even
though the copyright page says 1965. I suppose then, to be fair, he was thinking of a
very different modern language than I am!

I'm reading Le capital au XXIe siècle by Thomas Picketty. I've never read
any economics in French so I was expecting to have to pick up a bunch of new
vocabulary, but it's quite transparent if you already know the English words and
generic French vocabulary.







Edited by AlexTG on 05 August 2014 at 10:12am

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AlexTG
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 Message 15 of 21
11 August 2014 at 1:29pm | IP Logged 
Japanese
I'm about to finish A Dictionary of Basic Japanese Grammar. It's improved my
Japanese immeasurably. Not only are the explanations clear and concise, but the book
leans heavily on example sentences. On average there are more than five sentences per
page, over 573 pages. Reading this book means reading over 2865 sentences in Japanese.
That beats Assimil by quite a bit.

The content words used in the sentences are varied throughout, so you're picking up new
vocabulary as you go along. The new words are also generally repeated soon after being
introduced and then later in the book as well. So you don't just get a word and then
never see it again, rather you get a form of spaced repetition. A small group of words
were used a lot and are now burnt into my brain. That's okay, sometimes you want
to just focus on the grammar. EDIT: Just to be clear, the vocab is still super basic,
this is not the resource to build up your vocab size!

The grammatical words are, as the name indicates, organized alphabetically rather than
by concept. So, following an 80 page grammatical overview, the first entry is "ageru¹",
a way of saying "give", the next entry is "ageru²", on the use of the same
word to mean "do x for someone". Only later on in the book do you arrive at the
other ways of saying "give" and "do x for someone" (which to use depends on
level of politeness and frame of reference), though they are mentioned briefly in the
"ageru" entries.

I'll take a bit of a break, maybe finish Assimil, maybe start reading some non-poetry
native material before moving on to A Dictionary of Intermediate Japanese
Grammar
which looks to be of equal quality.

One thing to note is that the sentences aren't interesting in any way. But that seems
to be a common factor among all Japanese learning resources.


Edited by AlexTG on 21 August 2014 at 9:13am

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AlexTG
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Studies: Latin, German, Spanish, Japanese

 
 Message 16 of 21
21 August 2014 at 9:26am | IP Logged 
Japanese
Assimil: Lesson 28
I'm reading the first volume of Death Note. This is my first piece of native reading
material yay! I've got hard copies in both Japanese and English, using the English as a
parallel text. I'm not bothering to check the dictionary for bits I have trouble with.

German
My learning of German and Japanese were supposed to be staggered so I was at different
stages, but German has caught up quick smart. Jeez make your language a bit harder
Germans!(:P)
German Made Simple: Chapter 37
I was reciting poems to myself in the shower last night and thought of the
eight line poem "Die Kürze" by Friedrich Hölderlin. I was able to remember a bunch of
separate bits from it, cause it's awesome. So today I've been working on getting all of
it down in my head and hopefully it will stick. In which case, it will be the first
German poem I'm able to recite by heart (and hoh boy is it German[read:bleak]).

Edited by AlexTG on 21 August 2014 at 9:36am



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