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| zecchino1991 Senior Member United States facebook.com/amyybur Joined 5251 days ago 778 posts - 885 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: Italian, Modern Hebrew, Russian, Arabic (Written), Romanian, Icelandic, Georgian | Message 105 of 426 29 March 2012 at 2:15am | IP Logged | |||||
Ah yeah, I meant to ask about that. I thought it would be complicated so I just guessed. But apparently it's not so complicated! :) Anyway, dzaaaaalian didi madloba! :D @TixhiiDon: Madlob! :) Edited by zecchino1991 on 29 March 2012 at 2:29am 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Expugnator Hexaglot Senior Member Brazil Joined 5159 days ago 3335 posts - 4349 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, Norwegian, French, English, Italian, Papiamento Studies: Mandarin, Georgian, Russian | Message 106 of 426 29 March 2012 at 2:30am | IP Logged | |||||
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ძალიან კარგად! I'm glad I could figure out most of it myself, even though I must admit I read those posts backwards.
I'm still too shy to post something myself, but one day I hope I will be able to write in Georgian. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| zecchino1991 Senior Member United States facebook.com/amyybur Joined 5251 days ago 778 posts - 885 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Italian, Modern Hebrew, Russian, Arabic (Written), Romanian, Icelandic, Georgian | Message 107 of 426 29 March 2012 at 2:30am | IP Logged | |||||
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@Murdoc: So should the other sentence where I said "iq aris" be "Kidev erti bichi aris
romelsac Artiomi qvia"? Also would it sound more normal to just say "ketili qali ar aris" rather than "is ar aris ketili qali." I meant to say 'she is not a nice woman," not "that is not a nice woman" or something like that...
ყოჩაღ! :)
Don't be shy! It's ok to write silly things when you're a beginner (or even when you're not! ;) Just look at the first thing I ever wrote (I think it's on the 2nd page or something), it was terrible! But that's how you learn. :) Edited by zecchino1991 on 29 March 2012 at 3:47am 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Murdoc Triglot Senior Member Georgia Joined 5247 days ago 113 posts - 208 votes Speaks: Georgian*, English, Russian | Message 108 of 426 29 March 2012 at 10:40pm | IP Logged | |||||
Yeah that would sound much more natural.
Yeah it would definitely, seems you've got a good hang of it. But the latter one is not wrong either, it still means "she's not a kind woman", just in more formal way I guess. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| zecchino1991 Senior Member United States facebook.com/amyybur Joined 5251 days ago 778 posts - 885 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Italian, Modern Hebrew, Russian, Arabic (Written), Romanian, Icelandic, Georgian | Message 109 of 426 17 April 2012 at 7:53am | IP Logged | |||||
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Hey I just want to say that tomorrow I'm gonna write something in Georgian. (It's too
late now...) I just have a question. I was watching an Israeli show and it had Georgian people in it and one of them said 'kuxna", like kitchen in Russian, instead of samzareulo. I looked in a dictionary and it wasn't in there so do people say that or am I making things up? o.O And if they do, is there a difference between that and samzareulo? Madloba! :) 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| TixhiiDon Tetraglot Senior Member Japan Joined 5457 days ago 772 posts - 1474 votes Speaks: English*, Japanese, German, Russian Studies: Georgian | Message 110 of 426 17 April 2012 at 8:01am | IP Logged | |||||
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My Georgian teacher told me that people use many words in Russian during everyday conversation, while
the Georgian equivalents are used in literature and newspapers. One of these is kukhnya/samzareulo. She also said that this is slowly starting to disappear, and gave as an example the word for "driver": apparently everyone used to say shoffyer but now it's always mzgholi. So it seems there is a certain diglosia. Hopefully Murdoc will be able to explain this further as it's really interesting. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Murdoc Triglot Senior Member Georgia Joined 5247 days ago 113 posts - 208 votes Speaks: Georgian*, English, Russian | Message 111 of 426 18 April 2012 at 1:47am | IP Logged | |||||
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Hey guys, yeah unfortunately there still are many Russian words that are used in everyday Georgian speech. "kuxna" is a very good example, I probably use it just as often as "samzareulo" which is quite bad I suppose. There are many others like: spasiba, davai, vsio, shkafi, krisha, etc. Also we genuinely don't have informal way to greet each other except Russian "zdarova" or "privet" which is quite bad as well.
Lately same tendency has started to appear with regards to English especially in teenagers and young people, also widely propagandized by TV, words like: ბაიკი, ლანჩი, გლამური, დრამი, კრეატივი, ნიუსი, რეფერი, სეილი and lots of others are all becoming part of everyday speech. To me this situation is alarming but unfortunately not many people are concerned about the dangers of it against the language and no protective and regulatory measures are taken by anyone at all. I think the contrary is done in many cases. But there is lack of awareness of these kind of issues not only regarding the language but lots of other stuff and it's a very complex issue. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| TixhiiDon Tetraglot Senior Member Japan Joined 5457 days ago 772 posts - 1474 votes Speaks: English*, Japanese, German, Russian Studies: Georgian | Message 112 of 426 18 April 2012 at 2:03am | IP Logged | |||||
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Murdoc, are younger Georgians still fluent in Russian? How about you? Was it just a
natural process for you to learn Russian or did you have to work at it? Also, what with all the political troubles of recent years, is there any stigma against speaking Russian, or do Georgians separate the language from the politics? 1 person has voted this message useful |
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