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TAC 2015 - Rare Languages Team Thread | ||
Tags: Telugu | Hawaiian | Albanian | Team Thread | Malay | Sanskrit | Georgian | Tagalog | Indonesian | Thai | Rare Languages | Farsi/Persian | Hindi | Hebrew | Dutch | Arabic | Total Annihilation Challenge (TAC) | ||
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| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6585 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes  4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 49 of 113 07 January 2015 at 12:07pm | IP Logged |
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Great post, Luso!
I think something about the connections between languages would be interesting. For example, Indonesian has loan words from Dutch, Sanskrit, Arabic (and Portuguese too). 2 persons have voted this message useful | |
| Magdalene Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5024 days ago 119 posts - 220 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Mandarin, German, Modern Hebrew, French | Message 50 of 113 09 January 2015 at 10:02am | IP Logged |
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Good idea, Serpent. On a similar note, I'll be learning about Hebrew's root system this year, which'll be of interest to the team members learning Arabic. For instance, in both Hebrew and Arabic the triconsonantal root K-T-B is in words that have to do with writing.
And Luso, great points about not stressing and this being a marathon, not a sprint. Also, I have some more Hebrew resources for the first page. Teach Me Hebrew. Grammar lessons, dialogues, Anki decks. Learn Hebrew Verbs. The name is misleading; the site doesn't teach the verbs, but it has conjugations of common verbs by gender, tense, and number, and it also includes the verb root. Do It in Hebrew. The dictionary I use. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |
| Zireael Triglot Senior Member Poland Joined 4639 days ago 518 posts - 636 votes Speaks: Polish*, EnglishB2, Spanish Studies: German, Sign Language, Tok Pisin, Arabic (Yemeni), Old English | Message 51 of 113 09 January 2015 at 5:20pm | IP Logged |
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I was going to pick netspeak from Magdalene's list, but then I remembered I've already covered Arabizi in my log... :(
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| Luso Hexaglot Senior Member Portugal Joined 6049 days ago 819 posts - 1812 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, French, EnglishC2, GermanB1, Italian, Spanish Studies: Sanskrit, Arabic (classical) | Message 52 of 113 13 January 2015 at 10:52am | IP Logged |
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It seems we are reluctant to choose a challenge topic, so I'm going to venture a suggestion:
Give a reason why your unusual language is worth studying. Be creative and specific (we don't want the "all languages are worth studying" routine here). "Sell" your language to the team. I know it's not much of a challenge, but January is the time when people are typically most motivated. I don't want you skipping lessons to do the challenge. The need for motivation will come later. And please remember: this is just a suggestion. If you don't agree, speak up. It's ok. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |
| druckfehler Triglot Senior Member Germany Joined 4856 days ago 1181 posts - 1912 votes Speaks: German*, EnglishC2, Korean Studies: Persian | Message 53 of 113 13 January 2015 at 9:48pm | IP Logged |
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Sounds great! I like the January challenge! I think it's very important to think about why I'm studying my languages sometimes to boost my motivation and doing that at the beginning of the year can only help.
I'll start then and tell you why Persian is unbelievably worthy of being studied :) There are many great reasons to start learning Persian. Personally, I started learning the language because I noticed how incredibly useful it is. When you think of widely spoken languages, Persian may not actually be among them. You might think Spanish, French, Arabic or maybe Chinese, but Persian? Fact is that Persian is spoken both in Iran and Afghanistan and from what I read, Tajik is similar enough for some to count Tajikistan as a Persian-speaking country as well. What makes Persian very useful in Germany (and probably most other western countries) is the sizable emigrant population. In my city I randomly hear people speaking Persian a lot more often than for example French. Some people will say they study Persian because are fascinated by an incredible ancient civilisation, epic literature and beautiful poetry. Some will see it as one of the most exotic and interesting Indo-European languages. Or maybe as a doorway to the Middle East, seeing as it should be much easier to study for Europeans and Americans than a non-Indo-European language like Arabic. It's a wonder Persian is not more widely studied. It's really underrated in terms of importance and usefulness. But I couldn't stick to a language just because it's useful. I need to have passion for the language itself. For me, Persian is always in danger of being overshadowed by the incredible journey that is learning Korean. But even though it has strong competition, I can't give up studying Persian. I like its tricky writing system that feels like a crossword puzzle, I love its elegant grammar where you can build strings of words and express a whole lot through just one very simply grammar point. I also love the way it sounds when sung, as in Siavash Ghomeyshi's Daryaye Maghreb. Persian also comes with a fascinating old culture that sometimes reminds me of my own and sometimes of what I've come to love about Korean culture. If you study Persian, you'll get to celebrate another New Year's day (in springtime) and a second Christmas eve (yalda, the longest night of the year). Who's going to join me? ;) 5 persons have voted this message useful | |
| Anya Pentaglot Senior Member France Joined 5781 days ago 636 posts - 708 votes Speaks: Russian*, FrenchC1, English, Italian, Spanish Studies: German, Japanese, Hungarian, Sanskrit, Portuguese, Turkish, Mandarin Studies: Ancient Greek, Hindi | Message 54 of 113 14 January 2015 at 8:24pm | IP Logged |
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reasons to learn Sanskrit:
- Linguistic point of view: comparison with modern Indo-European languages. Fascinating similarity. - language of Bhagavad Gita. - classical and at the same time living language. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |
| Sprachprofi Nonaglot Senior Member Germany learnlangs.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6458 days ago 2608 posts - 4866 votes Speaks: German*, English, French, Esperanto, Greek, Mandarin, Latin, Dutch, Italian Studies: Spanish, Arabic (Written), Swahili, Indonesian, Japanese, Modern Hebrew, Portuguese | Message 55 of 113 15 January 2015 at 1:38pm | IP Logged |
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Reasons I'm learning Hebrew now:
Everyone's doing it. ;-) Seriously, I have been thinking of picking up Hebrew for a while, because it is said to be the easier Semitic language and I have had an on-and- off love-hate relationship with Arabic. Hebrew may finally open a path to mastering Arabic. Also, it is easier to convince my family to travel to Israel than to travel to an Arab country. Richard Simcott's workshop on language-learning changed my thinking. So far, I'd generally study languages that come cheap (Romance/Germanic languages, Indonesian) up to the point where they'd require serious work, and I'd study generally languages that are fascinating to me (Swahili, Chinese, Greek) with a lot of energy. Richard introduced the ideas of "anchor languages", which convinced me to commit more to Dutch and Italian. He also introduced stressed over and over how much easier it is to learn/maintain a language when you can speak it regularly in your daily life... and I realized that already now I have many opportunities to speak Hebrew, without even developing new habits. I'm friends with a Hebrew-speaking couple here in Berlin, I also often eat at an Israeli vegetarian café that is a mere 3 minutes from my home and the owner is so nice we often chat for 30-60 minutes after the meal if the café isn't busy. Online I also know a good number of Israelis or Jews fluent in Hebrew and they are all people that I'd love to talk to more. Finally, there are some polyglots (in Berlin or regularly visiting Berlin, like Alex Rawlings) who love Hebrew and speak it at polyglot get-togethers if given half a chance. So I realized that if I learned Hebrew, it would have a lot higher chances of success and higher chances to multilingualize my life than basically any other language I could choose. In short, "everyone's doing it". 4 persons have voted this message useful | |
| Expugnator Hexaglot Senior Member Brazil Joined 5154 days ago 3335 posts - 4349 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, Norwegian, French, English, Italian, Papiamento Studies: Mandarin, Georgian, Russian | Message 56 of 113 15 January 2015 at 7:05pm | IP Logged |
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Could you elaborate on the concept of anchor languages, Sprachprofi? I googled and found no results. You made me curious, after all in my case Dutch and Italian are sinking in the North Sea and the Mediterranean, respectively.
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