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Via Diva
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 Message 617 of 812
06 December 2014 at 11:04am | IP Logged 
Writing a novel and learning German are really the examples of things which are going to haunt me till I'm
done. Either my life will change dramatically and I wouldn't need this to happen, or I will just do them
somehow.
P.S. Ach, Dornenreich...
Der Moment bin Ich in meinem Leben.
Der Moment ist Ich in meinem Leben.
Gefühl ist Ich in meinem Leben.
Der Gedanke ist Ich in meinem Leben.

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Via Diva
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 Message 618 of 812
07 December 2014 at 8:49am | IP Logged 
This notebooks manufacturer needs a few more English lessons, eh?

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Via Diva
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 Message 619 of 812
08 December 2014 at 1:35am | IP Logged 
I have written a small poem in German yesterday and posted in on lang-8 and italki just because I needed a
way to record it. It's small and simple and I even dared to think it was without mistakes. Haha.
Not only mistakes were there, but they were corrected differently. For example, I write:
Es gibt ein Traum / den ich nicht folgen kann
One person fixes:
Es gibt ein Traum/ dem ich night folgen kann
The other says:
Es gibt einen Traum/ den ich nicht folgen kann

No comment.
Except for one, maybe - I am damned.
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 Message 620 of 812
08 December 2014 at 6:47pm | IP Logged 
"Es gibt einen Traum, dem ich nicht folgen kann" is the correct version.

Unfortunately, some people aren't able to produce correct accusative endings on words ending with an -n anymore. Usually, the e in the "-en" ending is swallowed in collouquial speech, which produces some sort of "syllabic" n.

The aforementioned people, however, are no longer able to distinguish between a syllabic n and a normal n (for which either modern education methods or language change is to blame), so they write "ein", "kein", "sein", "mein", "dein" when it should be "einen", "keinen", "seinen", "meinen", "deinen". For someone who is still able to make this distinction, it simply looks terrible...

Edited by Josquin on 08 December 2014 at 8:19pm

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Via Diva
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 Message 621 of 812
09 December 2014 at 4:26am | IP Logged 
It sounds like not only Genitiv steps aside, losing to Dativ, but also Akkusativ loses its importance. This does
look terrible, it fixes the word order in "Der Mann isst einen Apfel", for starters.
I wonder if such simplification, the tendency to lose cases, even happen to Russian and how, if it happens.
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Via Diva
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 Message 622 of 812
11 December 2014 at 3:42pm | IP Logged 
eure Anteil des täglichen Irrsinns

I don't have time to study anything, but it doesn't mean I am left without languages. Today I nearly missed my
bus stop thinking how to write my name in Greek.

Seems legit?
I'd prefer Δάρια, but it would be pronounced as Tharia. No, thanks...

Also have written some poetry in Russian. Don't know if it's better than anything I'm capable of achieving in
English (surely is in case of German), cause I just don't know if it's any good at all.
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Via Diva
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 Message 623 of 812
12 December 2014 at 4:12pm | IP Logged 
I'm not doing anything, but:

Plus Greek keeps knocking to my doors. I've tried to transcribe yet another name (looks much cooler than mine, hehe), and overall the alphabet with its weirdness (I won't ever get how can you have 2 o but no b and d) is tempting me yet again.
Also I'm coming close with finishing "The Idiot" (in Russian) and then I want to read something English or German. You'll see why quite soon :)
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 Message 624 of 812
12 December 2014 at 7:56pm | IP Logged 
They don't have a single letter for /g/ either. The corresponding sounds are found in
Ancient Greek, where β/δ/γ indicated b,d and g respectively, but over time these
sounds lenited and became the fricatives v, ð, γ. Hence the voiced stops have to be
written with compound consonants.

In Ancient Greek, the vowel sounds that have now merged were actually different vowel
sounds. They had length qualities and so on. It's still visible in loans - where
modern Greek pronounces η as i, it's always transcribed with an e in old words. For
example πρόβλημα = problema in Ancient Greek (and became problem, probleem, problema
and so on in other languages). In Modern Greek it's pronounced provlima due to these
regular sound changes.

Edited by tarvos on 12 December 2014 at 8:00pm



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