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| Iolanthe Diglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 5631 days ago 410 posts - 482 votes  Speaks: English*, DutchC1 Studies: Turkish, French | Message 57 of 88 21 July 2014 at 6:30pm | IP Logged | ||
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That's surprising because when I write I honestly have no idea if it's in any way
understandable or correct. I'm relying heavily on dictionaries. But thanks! In terms of courses I've only used NFWE and Using French so far. I've been watching lots of TV (mostly Friends) and trying to read native materials everyday, which has been mostly news so far but lately I've been reading Le Petit Prince. I gave up on Anki a while ago after I missed a week or two and the reviews became unmanageable. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Iolanthe Diglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 5631 days ago 410 posts - 482 votes Speaks: English*, DutchC1 Studies: Turkish, French | Message 58 of 88 29 July 2014 at 2:54pm | IP Logged | ||
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Week 30: 790 minutes
Total: 18,031 minutes or 300h 31m J’ai atteint mon objectif des 300 heures! Mais c’était un peu stressant parce que j’ai appris pour 13 heures la semaine dernière et c’était trop pour moi. Je voulais atteindre mon objectif des que possible, donc c’est de ma faute. Maintenant, 500 heures! 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Arnaud25 Diglot Senior Member France Joined 3832 days ago 129 posts - 235 votes Speaks: French*, English Studies: Russian | Message 59 of 88 30 July 2014 at 1:02pm | IP Logged | ||
Don't worry, it's sufficiently correct to be perfectly understandable :) Despite the mistakes, I would even say that your style is rather natural and agreable to read. Edited by Arnaud25 on 30 July 2014 at 1:07pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Iolanthe Diglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 5631 days ago 410 posts - 482 votes Speaks: English*, DutchC1 Studies: Turkish, French | Message 60 of 88 05 September 2014 at 10:50pm | IP Logged | ||
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@Arnaud25 Merci beaucoup! That's very encouraging to hear.
Français Total (as of week 35): 346h 51m Je n'ai pas écrit dans mon log depuis un mois. Mais ne t'inquiète pas, j'apprends le français encore chaque jour. Mon routine est maintenant très différent. Je n'utilise plus d'Assimil. J’utilise « Practice Makes Perfect Complete French Grammar ». Aussi, j'ai lu deux BDs: « SOS Lusitania tome 1 » et « Abymes tome 1 ». J'aime le dernière. Je veux écrire et lire plus. Nederlands Nog een mijlpaal bereikt. Ik kan onder zware omstandigheden overtuigend zijn in het Nederlands. Laat me even uitleggen. Ik heb een hele vervelende, kritische schoonvader en vroeger durfde ik nooit te "debatteren" met hem in het Nederlands maar eindelijk in de laatste paar maanden is er iets gebeurt in mijn hoofd en ik kan je vertellen dat boosheid wonderen doet voor mijn Nederlands. Angst heeft het tegenovergestelde effect dus ik moet vaker boos worden. Wat een ontdekking! Afrikaans Bah, life's too short not to enjoy this wonderful language so I've decided to continue my efforts to increase my passive skills. As Serpent says, passive activities probably won't cause interference with my Dutch and so I feel safe to listen as much as I want. Edit: Tidied up my French. Edited by Iolanthe on 06 September 2014 at 9:45am 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Vos Diglot Senior Member Australia Joined 5556 days ago 766 posts - 1020 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Dutch, Polish | Message 61 of 88 08 September 2014 at 8:06am | IP Logged | ||
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Grappige ontdekking inderdaad! Dus moet je gewoon rond mensen met onwetende opvattingen blijven hangen en
dan zal jou Nederlands met sprongen vooruitgaan! Maar ik stel me voor dat je snel een ongelooflijk boos mens zal worden... Misschien kon je naar Fox News kijken en tegen de televisie schreeuwen om te oefenen? Probeer hem maar niet te schoppen of hem uit het raam te gooien. Ga je nog door met Afrikaans? 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| fortheo Senior Member United States Joined 5026 days ago 187 posts - 222 votes Studies: French | Message 62 of 88 09 September 2014 at 9:00am | IP Logged | ||
I know this is an old post by you, but man I feel exactly the same way you felt. I'm on chapter eleven of FIA and ever since I got past chapter 5,I feel like I could spend like 5-6 hours just to become competent in the information they're giving. I watch the video at least twice, do the pronunciation audio lessons that take like 30 minutes, the audio+ transcript shadowing lessons which can take another 10-30 minutes depending on how long you go through it. Then all the written and audio lessons in the book (usually around 30-40 lessons). All of that for ONE chapter! I feel better knowing you were just as daunted by FIA as I am haha. Anyways, I like your log and it's nice to see your progress! I'm going down a similar route(Assimil and FIA, mixed with native materials). You're further ahead of me though so it's nice to see what my french future may possibly look like! Keep up the good work! Edited by fortheo on 09 September 2014 at 9:04am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Iolanthe Diglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 5631 days ago 410 posts - 482 votes Speaks: English*, DutchC1 Studies: Turkish, French | Message 63 of 88 07 October 2014 at 7:42pm | IP Logged | ||
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@ Vos - Briljant idee om Fox News te kijken. Dat zal me zeker lekker boos maken.
Afrikaans is meer iets waar ik af en toe aandacht aan besteed. Ik word er altijd een paar dagen heel enthousiast over en een week later heb ik dan niets meer met het Afrikaans gedaan. Het maakt niet uit want het is alleen voor de lol. @ fortheo - Unfortunately I never made it through FIA. I suppose in the end I was just too lazy to complete every lesson since the videos alone are 30 minutes. I keep thinking that maybe I should watch the videos to help plug the holes in my vocabulary. Nederlands Ik volg weer colleges op de universiteit om mijn bachelor Nederlands af te maken. Ik heb heel veel huiswerk en ik moet uiteindelijk een scriptie schrijven in het Nederlands dus dat is een beetje spannend. Het is leuk dat ik weer aan mijn Nederlands kan werken met de begeleiding van een leraar. I'll do an update for French later. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Iolanthe Diglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 5631 days ago 410 posts - 482 votes Speaks: English*, DutchC1 Studies: Turkish, French | Message 64 of 88 12 October 2014 at 11:15pm | IP Logged | ||
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Français
Total (week 41): 399 hours and 24 minutes My French is coming along nicely. Well, at least my passive French. I think my passive skills might be edging towards the A2/B1 border which is rather exciting. I watch a lot of the French tv programme On n’est pas couché where they talk about politics and culture. This is the kind of content I aspire to understand. Maybe I’m weird but I find it fun to watch things that I can’t yet understand so it’s no problem for me to watch a show like that on a regular basis. It’s paying off anyway because I’m starting to understand more and more. I can certainly follow the gist which is an improvement from just getting the odd word here and there. I also read my first full book, Charlie et la Chocolaterie. After that I tried Harry Potter but I seemed to be missing too many important details so I decided to read books aimed at learners until I start to feel more confident about my reading skills. I’ve been reading A2 and B1 level books and they are quite comfortable to read. I don’t feel the need to pick up a dictionary unless a completely unknown word keeps coming up over and over again. I’ve started using Duolingo because it forces you to activate your knowledge and that’s exactly what I need. While I was a beginner in Dutch I felt constant pressure to work on my active skills because those are the ones I was judged on in everyday life. With French I have a more rebellious approach. This is the first language I’m learning purely because I want to and it acts as stress relief so if I want to be lazy about writing and speaking, that’s fine with me. There is no French speaking father- in-law to comment negatively on my progress and compare me to other foreigners (hallelujah!) so it’s my French and I’ll be sucky if I want to. That being said, I don’t want to sound like a total buffoon in French which is why I am making feeble attempts with Duolingo. My current daily routine involves: - Assimil Using French - Duolingo - Reading - Listening My wanderlust symptoms are back. I’m still hoping medical science will find the cure but they are probably too busy with Ebola at the moment. I don’t think I should start a new language until I have done 600+ hours of French, so probably not until late 2015/early 2016. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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