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| Jeffers Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4898 days ago 2151 posts - 3960 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: Hindi, Ancient Greek, French, Sanskrit, German | Message 9 of 15 03 January 2015 at 1:02pm | IP Logged | ||||||||||||||||||||
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Here's a welcome to Team Français 2015. Bienvenue! How have you like Amelie? And how much weird vocabulary is there in the Hobbit?
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| PeterMollenburg Senior Member AustraliaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5465 days ago 821 posts - 1273 votes Speaks: English* Studies: FrenchB1 | Message 10 of 15 11 January 2015 at 12:05am | IP Logged | ||||||||||||||||||||
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Hi IBEP,
Welcome to Team français and good luck with your 2015 goals. I'd not heard of Kannada before, so a quick visit to the French wikipedia site informs me it's spoken by 45million ppl in south-west India, has three genders (m, f, n) and uses a heavily Sanskrit influenced writing system, and that around 20 dialects exist. It's one of the 22 national languages of India and is official in the provence of Karnataka. I'm just sharing what I learned in case anyone else was curious too :) Good luck IBEP! PM 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||||||||||||||
| Cavesa Triglot Senior Member Czech Republic Joined 4998 days ago 3277 posts - 6779 votes Speaks: Czech*, FrenchC2, EnglishC1 Studies: Spanish, German, Italian | Message 11 of 15 14 January 2015 at 11:49pm | IP Logged | ||||||||||||||||||||
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Hello, teammate. It is the first time I am following your log and I am amazed. This is
going to be a thrilling path! Good luck with the DELE C2, I am looking forward to hearing of your experience. As for French, I am sure you will progress nicely. You've already noticed the huge headstart Spanish gave you :-) I've already heard of Kannada! My class at highschool had been sponsoring together an indian "classmate". A girl from a poor family who is hopefully now fulfilling her dream of becoming a teacher and whose native language is Kannada. Most of us at least used the wikipedia when we heard about Kannada the first time. :-) To the Hobbit, which I read in French ages ago: I find Tolkien to be a great author even in translations (really, quite no publisher will destroy such a jewel by printing a bad translation) and the vocabulary isn't by far as weird as some people expect it to be. There are many scenes with everyday vocabulary, great descriptions, the dialogues are nice and the fantasy vocabulary gets repeated a lot and makes a great base for anyone wishing to read some more fantasy, historical fiction, historical novels and so on. Do you agree IBEP, or is your experience different from mine? 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||||||||||||||
| sctroyenne Diglot Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5380 days ago 739 posts - 1312 votes Speaks: English*, French Studies: Spanish, Irish | Message 12 of 15 15 January 2015 at 5:52am | IP Logged | ||||||||||||||||||||
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Nice, another advanced team member going for the C2 test! It should be an exciting year! Fortunately my region offers the test around May and December so even if I miss May I can maybe add my name to the list before the end of the year :) And it's nice seeing a much less studied/known language (and a heritage language to boot)!
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| IBEP Bilingual Triglot Newbie United States Joined 3620 days ago 19 posts - 31 votes Speaks: English*, Kannada*, Spanish Studies: Mandarin, French | Message 13 of 15 27 January 2015 at 6:27pm | IP Logged | ||||||||||||||||||||
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Hey guys, I've been super busy so I have been unable to post in a couple of weeks, but my language studies are coming along
fantastically! One major change though- I will be going to South Korea in March for at least 3 months but possibly upwards of 5 (or longer!). As I do not wish to waste that opportunity linguistically speaking, I am dropping Chinese for the foreseeable future (read: years, at least until my Korean is at a decent level). Instead I will be studying Korean! Starting today, in fact. My course of study looks like something like this: FSI Korean- by the way, the old FSI site is down; you guys can find the new one here: http://fsi-languages.yojik.eu/ In fact that site includes some more remastered/improved courses, one of which is the Korean course Concurrently, learn Hangul with some mnemonic system, perhaps Mnemosyne has something; alternatively, come up with something on my own, perhaps utilizing the techniques I learned in Técnicas de Memoria Veloz (the Spanish book I mentioned earlier) Towards the end of this course, hopefully my French will be at a level where I can use Assimil Le Coréen Sans Peine And somewhere towards the end of FSI or the beginning of Assimil, add in a robust Korean textbook (I've seen several recommendations here and around the web, not sure which I'm gonna settle on. Advice appreciated.) And while in Korea, I will be taking an approximately 20 hr/week Korean language course. Plus native media, graded readers, etc.
Merci! Amelie is fantastic, really quirky humor, right up my alley haha. The Hobbit has some unusual vocab but nearly all of that is cognate with the English: les elfes, les orcs, etc. If LOTR fascinates you, definitely worth a read/listen.
Hey Peter, Thank you for the welcome. Yes that is correct about Kannada, but with regard to the genders, it's a little more complicated than what students of European languages might be accustomed to. This would be a better way of classifying it I think: animate male animate female inanimate So the first two categories generally refer to people (but also gods, sometimes named pets, etc. and theoretically aliens). The inanimate category refers to everything else. So it's not arbitrary gender like in some other languages. Each of those genders has its own conjugation pattern, so there's noun-verb gender agreement, rather than noun-adjective agreement (adjectives are not gendered at all). This produces some interesting speech patterns, where you could (for example) refer to a newborn infant in the inanimate gender, in recognition of its lack of agency, or as male/female inanimate, depending on what rhetorical goal you're looking to accomplish. Likewise with pets.
Thank you for your kind words!
Yes! Just as an update, my French is really growing by leaps and bounds. It's amazing what a difference cognate discount can make. Somewhere around the middle of this month (around the 15th or so) I turned on the radio station France Culture and was absolutely shocked that sometimes I could understand as much as 80% of a segment. I'm listening to the first Hunger Games now, and although I've read it before in English (but years ago), I really have only minor problems following the plot, and I'm picking up contextual vocabulary quite quickly.
That's fantastic!
I agree, there's a lot of vocabulaire quotidien. However, reading the translation, I remember reading many years ago that the translation of LOTR into one of the Scandinavian languages (either Swedish or Norwegian, I can't remember which) was quite abysmal until a newer edition published much more recently. Apparently it was the cause of much ire amongst Tolkien fans who speak that language.
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| Woodsei Bilingual Diglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member United States justpaste.it/Woodsei Joined 4786 days ago 614 posts - 782 votes Speaks: English*, Arabic (Egyptian)* Studies: Russian, Japanese, Hungarian | Message 14 of 15 16 March 2015 at 10:48pm | IP Logged | ||||||||||||||||||||
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It's late, but it's great following your log and being with you on the team, IBEP! Your
plans so far seem solid, and I'm intrigued with the focus you'll be putting on Korean from now on. Good luck, and I hope 2015 would a good year for you, in everything. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||||||||||||||
| PeterMollenburg Senior Member AustraliaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5465 days ago 821 posts - 1273 votes Speaks: English* Studies: FrenchB1 | Message 15 of 15 25 August 2015 at 4:26am | IP Logged | ||||||||||||||||||||
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Hi IBEP,
Are you still out there? STill learning languages? Many of the French team have migrated to the " how-to-learn-any-language.org " alternative website. Feel free to come and join us! PM 1 person has voted this message useful |
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